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Q&A — October 14, 2012 (Marina Del Rey, CA)

October 14, 2012 · Marina Del Rey, CA · 2h 7m · Internet Archive ↗
Aajonus

Does anybody know about the country of Estonia?

Audience

Near Finland? Yeah.

Aajonus

They got their independence because everybody went on the streets and sang. They were the only country in the world that didn't, by coup, get their independence. They actually went on the streets and 90% of the population sang.

Audience

What do you mean, sang?

Aajonus

It was a freedom song. So I created a freedom song that I want everybody to start singing. And it's based on wishing on a star. So I was going to play it so everybody could get the tune, but I can see an old computer in there. I'll put it on the site. Yeah, on this site. So I'm going to pass it out to everyone. The reason I choose that one is because it's very touching.

Audience

When you wish upon a star?

Aajonus

Wish upon a star, yeah.

Audience

Wish upon a star.

Aajonus

Wishing on a star.

Audience

Like the Disney tune when you wish upon a star?

Aajonus

No. Wishing on a star.

Audience

[unintelligible]

Aajonus

No. Wishing on a star.

Audience

How does it go?

Aajonus

That's what I mean. I'm trying to think of a word. Do you have a card reader?

Audience

I don't even know what that is.

Aajonus

Then you don't have one. Anybody out there have a card reader on them? Well, I added one extra verse, which is the top of the back page. Otherwise, it is that same. But it follows the same stanza over here. The music is just that I wanted to stay a little bit more. You'll get one.

Audience

Can you hum a few bars? Oh, I heard that song for wishing on a star. It was on the radio.

Aajonus

Wishing on a star.

Audience

Yeah.

Aajonus

Darn, I wish I could get this working. Do you know it? The song has been done in 13 different versions since it was first written in, I think it was 69 or 70, 71, somewhere around there. Everybody loves doing it.

Audience

Is that similar?

Aajonus

Yes.

Audience

There are many beautiful groups. It's very melodic.

Aajonus

I can't get this thing to work.

Audience

Wishing on a star, far away, far away, far away. Wishing on a dream, you follow what we need.

Aajonus

You got it.

Audience

I'm not sure the second verse. I'm not sure. That's why we need it.

Aajonus

That's why you need it, yeah.

Audience

You have the music.

Aajonus

Does your computer have a card reader already built into it?

Audience

I don't know what you're talking about. That's not a slot. I don't know what you're talking about. Wishing on a star, far away, far away. You follow what's so far away. Wishing on a dream, you follow what we need.

Aajonus

Do you have the card reader so we can have the play in the office?

Audience

If there's Wi-Fi you can get it online.

Aajonus

So you can hear it.

Audience

Going to BMP3?

Aajonus

That's right, you could, couldn't you? Yeah. That is tragic.

[audio cut] [all singing] I'm wishing on a star To follow where you are I'm wishing on a dream To follow what it means I'm wishing on a star To follow where you are I'm wishing on a dream To follow what it means And I wish on all the rainbows that I see I wish on all the people who really dream And I'm wishing on tomorrow, praying it'll come And I'm wishing on all the lovin' we've ever done I never thought I'd see A time when you would be So far away from home So far away from me Just think of all the moments that we'd spent I just can't let you go, for me you were meant And I didn't mean to hurt you, but I know That in the game of love you reap what you sow I feel it's time we should make up, baby I feel it's time for us to get back together And make the best of things, oh, baby When we're together, whether or never I feel it's time we should make up, baby I feel it's time for us to get back together And make the best of things, oh, baby When we're together, whether or never I'm wishing on a star To follow where you are I'm wishing on a dream To follow what it means And I wish on all the rainbows that I see I wish on all the people we've ever been And I'm hopin' on all the days to come and days to go And I'm hopin' on days of lovin' you so I'm wishing on a star To follow where you are I'm wishing on a star, oh And I wish on all the rainbows that I see I'm wishing on a star To follow where you are I'm wishing on a star And I wish on all the rainbows that I see I'm wishing on a star To follow where you are I'm wishing on a star, oh, ah Oh, baby, baby, I wish I'm wishing on a star, oh To follow where you are I'm wishing on a star, baby To follow wherever you might be

Audience

Okay, showtime.

Aajonus

Ok, start behind me. Roger – do you have a question?

Audience

Yeah – what about green tea? Do you think it’s beneficial?

Aajonus

A lot of people put it out as a health food because they’re selling a product. Green tea is your vegetable juice. Cooked green tea has lots of toxic minerals in it – any metal that’s in the vegetable when you cook it you release that as a toxin; it’s no longer bound to the esters in the plant. So, anytime you cook anything – whether it’s tea – no matter what it is – it becomes toxic.

Audience

Now there is some tea that comes from Korea as a green [unintelligible]. You put it in cold water. Would that be any different?

Aajonus

No, they’ve had to steam it and cook it to get it to powder form. It takes great heat to do that.

Audience

Ok.

Aajonus

And it takes great heat to do that – the processing.

Audience

If you leave the tea bag in the water and leave it in the sun, you’re going to get metals.

Aajonus

Yeah, it’s a vegetable format – it’s vegetable juice. You’re not going to get much from it because there’s no enzyme activity in it; there’s no active enzymes in it.

Audience

Is it better than a glass of water?

Aajonus

Well, it’s probably a little bit better than just water – but pretty close to just water.

Audience

What if you put it in a blender – like one time I put some mint leaves, blended it and then strained out –

Aajonus

Fresh mint leaves?

Audience

Fresh mint leaves.

Aajonus

That’s fine.

Audience

Yeah?

Aajonus

That’s fine.

Audience

Is it too much water though?

Aajonus

It’s still too much water.

Audience

Yeah – ok.

Aajonus

Better to have juice – add mint to your juice. It would be a lot better. Ok. Do you have a question?

Audience

I do: I was wondering what do you do if you’re travelling. I’m going to –

Aajonus

I travel all the time.

Audience

But how do you do – do you take things?

Aajonus

Yeah – I have a letter from an MD that says I was diagnosed with diabetes and cancer and I have to eat every hour and I have to take so much food. When I go to Asia the letter says I have to take 20 to 30 pounds with me and you can’t x-ray it – you have to check each one by hand. So, I go two hours early to give them time to do all that process.

But I write letters for my patients and I charge 80 to 100, depending upon the situation and then that lasts about four months. You can use the letter for four months. And some people can use it for a couple years or if you get a TSA agent who’s a tough guy – he’s not going to let you use it for more than four months.

So, it says: I need two quarts of milk, I need my raw meat, sauce, vegetable juice. So, I go on with a whole bag of foods and have it hand-checked. Because it says: Cannot be scanned – it has to be hand-checked.

Audience

Is that carry on?

Aajonus

Yeah.

Audience

And they do it?

Aajonus

Don’t put anything in check-in – they put everything through a huge radiation scanner which is 100 times an x-ray.

Audience

Do you have any liquids with you?

Aajonus

Yeah – I said I take two quarts of milk and a vegetable juice. When I’m going to Asia I’ll take three quarts of milk, plus a juice – a quart. So, I take a gallon.

Audience

Do you ever bring your juice on the plane? How long is your flight?

Aajonus

Well, let’s say I take off here – I’ve been to Taipei – I’m two hours there – lay-over – and by the time I get to Bangkok it’s about 24 hours.

Audience

The whole time your juice is there.

Aajonus

I don’t mind fermented juice.

Audience

You don’t mind the fermented juice?

Aajonus

No, fermented juice is a good detox. When I went away I left a quart of juice in the refrigerator. I came back two a half months later – I drank the whole thing.

Audience

Oh, my lord.

Aajonus

It’s delicious. Fermented juice is delicious.

Audience

Did it taste like beer?

Aajonus

No, it tastes very tangy though.

Audience

What containers do you put them in to?

Aajonus

Glass – all my food’s in glass. Except this last time I got [unintelligible].

Audience

Ever have a problem when they check it with a scanner once it goes through?

Aajonus

They check it with the metal detector – they don’t put it through the scanner.

Audience

Because when I do it they wipe it with a white circle, put it under a machine to check for –

Aajonus

To check for nitrogen – yeah.

Audience

They said they saw [unintelligible]. They threw away all my butter – Sacramento Airport. And we had a letter from you too.

Aajonus

Well, you may need to wipe before you take it.

Audience

Yeah.

Aajonus

Must have got some manure in it. Because the manure has nitrogen that’s what it’s like in the city if it’s near a farm directly. I was always wipe my honey. Honey has strong nitrogen in it, so it sets off – like it’s nitrous oxide.

Audience

Do you take a glass of honey?

Aajonus

Just a wet cloth – a damp cloth – the outside.

Audience

Do you take a glass of honey?

Aajonus

Yeah – I take a jar of honey.

Audience

And eggs?

Aajonus

I take butter on and everything. Yeah, I even take eggs – not all the time I take eggs – I’ve had too many accidents with eggs,

Audience

Can you put them in a jar?

Aajonus

but most of the time I do take them.

Audience

Can you put them raw into a jar?

Aajonus

Pardon? I don’t really want to do that. You could.

Audience

Is it going to oxidize, or?

Aajonus

Yeah – I don’t like them oxidizing, but sometimes I’ll make a milkshake – take my eggs that way. So, two quarts of milk, a quart of milkshake, a quart of juice, or a pint of juice.

Audience

Uh-huh.

Aajonus

So, that’s how I do it.

Audience

What would be your recommendations be for treating skin disorders: eczema / psoriasis?

Aajonus

Well, like I said in the book – the moisturizing and lubrication formula – have at least two a day. If you have say psoriasis which is pretty severe – have two of those a day and take three ounces at a time – a good three ounces about every two to three hours. Keep doing that and take it down to size and then take it down to just one. It would take about eight months to get rid of psoriasis. If it’s eczema, could be longer. It’s pretty rare. Especially when it’s easily digestible with the honey and the lemon juice. Do you have a question?

Audience

Yes, regarding the raw cheese regimen that you recommended for me and others: nuts and bolts – how much leeway? For instance – do you always eat the cheese before a drink or a meal? Do you always eat it a half hour regardless of when you eat that sugar-cube that you’ve mentioned?

Aajonus

No, I recommend that people eat small amounts of cheese to absorb the poisons that are constantly dumping into the stomach and intestines. That’s not the normal route; that’s not the healthy route for toxins to leave the body – 90% of toxins are supposed to leave through the skin.

Because the lymph systems are so blocked – the connective tissue is so jammed with trans-fatty acids which are plastic fats that you’ve all been raised on – donuts, chips, French fries – anything that’s been fried and heavy with carbohydrates then fried in a trans-fatty oil. Trans-fatty oil means the oils that’s been hydrogenated and hydrogenation is a process of making into plastic. So, trans-fatty acids are plastic fats – plastic oils. 99% of all oils used to fry foods – no matter what they are – are trans-fatty acids because they have an indefinite shelf life – 100 years – they’re dead. That’s why they are plastic – they are not alive anymore. They will not help you – they will jam your lymphatic system – jam everything in your body, so –

Audience

Aajonus, I have relatives who are going to fry because they don’t believe this. What is the best thing to tell them if they’re going to fry some of these – to fry it in lard?

Aajonus

Well, no, you should fry it in stone-pressed olive oil or coconut cream or coconut oil.

Audience

Coconut oil?

Aajonus

Yeah.

Audience

Or olive oil.

Aajonus

Olive oil.

Audience

Right – coconut. Back to my question: Yes –

Aajonus

Everybody has [unintelligible].

Audience

Right.

Aajonus

So, eating this cheese will absorb those poisons as the body dumps them into the stomach rather than out the skin and it does that. The lymph system takes its waste and dumps it under the skin to be perspired out of the skin. If it’s jammed it won’t do it, so it dumps it into the mucous membranes and if you get a cold or a flu or you’re spitting up mucous regularly – that’s elimination through your mucous membranes. The mucous membranes of the intestinal tract also – that’s where most of them get dumped.

Whenever you get nauseous that’s an indication that something’s toxic you’ve just eaten, or somewhere else stored in your body is going to the stomach and dumping into the stomach. Now hydrochloric acid neutralizes about 80% of all toxins, so nausea creates a lot of hydrochloric acid. The stomach produces massive amounts of hydrochloric acid from nausea. That is our reaction. It forces the stomach to produce tremendous amounts of hydrochloric acid – more like five to eight times more than what’s normal to digest the protein from meat - so it’s very concentrated. If you vomit, that means your body’s decided to use that hydrochloric acid to utilize it to expend, and then you get rid of it immediately – vomiting is the quickest way to get rid of the most poisons.

Next is diarrhea, but then you upset the whole ecological bacterial environment of the intestines. So, the cheese will absorb it, depending upon the toxicity of the person. I recommend people eat a little sugar-cubed size amount of cheese with just half a tsp. every 15 to 60 minutes, depending upon the individual.

Audience

Can you eat clay?

Aajonus

Clay won’t do it – if you have clay you’re going to get constipated and also not digest everything. Clay is helpful in that situation, but you can’t eat it frequent.

Audience

How often?

Aajonus

Once a day – twice a day at most for clay.

Audience

Could you add butter with the cheese?

Aajonus

Butter to the cheese is ok. You should do it since you’re so thin. So, that will absorb the toxins. Now, your question?

Audience

Yes, as far as leeway in taking it every 15/45 minutes: Do you always take it 10 minutes before a meal, or could you just stick to the interval throughout the day regardless of the meal?

Aajonus

If you’re going to have a meal – let’s say it was at a certain time and your cheese is supposed to fall in the midst of it – always eat cheese 10 minutes before that meal or drink your milkshake, whatever it is. So, you’ll absorb the poisons into the cheese and they won’t get into your food because if it gets into your food you’re just going to recycle your poisons – and that’s what 99% of people do: Recycle their poisons.

Audience

What do you when you’re sipping milk every 10/15 minutes? Let’s say you take a little sip and –

Aajonus

Still stick to your cheese every 15, 20, 30, 45, 60 minutes – still do that.

Audience

Do you mean do the cheese and wait 10 minutes for the milk?

Aajonus

Yeah – uh-huh.

Audience

Ok.

Aajonus

Yeah. And let’s say I’ve got construction workers who are heavily toxic and laboratory personal who deal with a lot of formaldehyde and mercury – I have them eat a cube every 15 minutes. So, they’ll take that and wait seven minutes, drink some sport formula or milk, or milkshake and then seven minutes have that piece of cheese again – and they do that all day long.

When it comes to a meal of course they don’t eat that cheese during that half of the meal, but they eat it 10 minutes before the meal and then about 25 minutes after the meal they have cheese again, then 10 minutes after that is when you have honey and cheese together.

When you have cheese without honey without fruit you do not digest the cheese; there are no enzymes in dehydrated food, no matter what it is. So, you have to have honey or some kind of fruit – like an acidic fruit – like pineapple or papaya – to provide the enzymes to digest that cheese.

So, twice a day I recommend that 25 minutes after your meal you have a little piece of cheese, 10 minutes after that you have your cheese with honey and that’s your mineral supplement. Ok? I’ve seen women with 32% bone loss and osteoporosis reverse that in nine months by doing that.

Audience

Wow.

Aajonus

Nine months. It used to take two – two and a half – three years before I started experimenting with that. Now nine months.

Audience

Any kind of raw cheese or even a cottage cheese?

Aajonus

Does not matter.

Audience

Cottage cheese ok?

Aajonus

Cottage is fine – as long as it’s not too wet. Yeah.

Audience

Not too wet. Does it have to be unsalted?

Aajonus

Has to be unsalted. Salt is an explosive – it starts fractionating your food, so if you have raw salted cheese you’re going to reabsorb your poisons. If you have pasteurized cheese you’re going to reabsorb your poisons. If you have salted pasteurized cheese you’re going to really not synthesize, as well as reabsorbing your poisons – toxins. Do you have a question?

Audience

Not yet.

Aajonus

Ok. Come back.

Audience

What’s the best way to help re-mineralize your teeth?

Aajonus

Just the way I said it: Eat cheese often, so your body’s not using your key minerals to bind with the poisons. When you’re eating the cheese and honey together, you’re filling your body with tremendous amounts of … If you’ve got a real serious problem at any particular time, you do that three times a day: twice after a meat meal because you’re only having one meat meal a day – that means you have to take it two other times – and the middle of the night is the one time in the middle of the night that is best. And that’ll help if you stick with it.

Audience

And is it true that you detox your head through your mouth and your teeth?

Aajonus

Yes – your brain detoxes through the sinuses, but mainly the gums, the tongue and the salivary glands. If you’ve got a white tongue that indicates the poisons are mainly leaving the tongue – your body uses the calcium, phosphorous, magnesium and potassium to bind with those poisons, or else your tongue would turn into a very acidic, sore, bleeding appendage. So, that white tongue – although the Chinese say that’s a bad thing – it’s a good thing. Your body is still using those minerals to attach to the toxins coming through the mouth.

Scrape it off, that’s fine – take some oil or something and just swish it around in your mouth to clean it off the tongue – it’s all good. And you can swallow it after it passes the main [unintelligible].

Audience

As far as re-mineralizing teeth is the cheese a substitute for the fermented milk and egg shell formula that you recommended to me last year?

Aajonus

Yeah, it works a little better.

Audience

The cheese is better?

Aajonus

Yeah.

Audience

Good, I like it better.

Aajonus

I do too.

Audience

Do you eat the cheese and honey 10 minutes before a cheese?

Aajonus

You eat the cheese – it’s always the cheese 10 minutes before you have the cheese and honey.

Audience

Yeah, but even in the middle of the night do you do it?

Aajonus

Yeah, still I have a piece of cheese first but you don’t have to wait a full 10 minutes. 5 minutes is fine during the middle of the night. And when you have that cheese with honey it should be about a three to one ratio maximum. So, let’s say you’re having a tbsp. of cheese, you have a tsp. of honey only; you have three tbsp. of cheese, you can have two a half to three tsp. of honey. Ok, Kathy’s waving.

Audience

What do I do – there’s people that say to me my hearing is going out and I am confused because I’ve been on the diet since eighteen years in December, believe it or not, when I came to you and started. And I don’t know what to do.

Aajonus

Well, you’re still going to degenerate because you spent 45 years on a toxic diet, so every cell is inundated with toxins. It takes 40 years according to Pottenger and Howell’s work – to remove all the toxins from the body when you’re on a 100% raw diet. If you’re not on a 100% raw diet, it’s going to take longer – so there’s going to be deterioration somewhere until it’s gone.

Audience

Well, it takes the hot baths are going to pull out some of it.

Aajonus

Hot baths help discharge a lot of the poisons throughout the skin – yes.

Audience

Do them at the ears too.

Aajonus

Do them to the ears – but you usually don’t put your head under the water so you put a hot water bottle at one ear one night and the next ear at the other night. Yeah – and that’s the best way. Whenever you have a problem area the way to speed increase circulation and nutrients to that area is applying heat. If you apply ice or cold, what happens? It shrinks and constricts – reduces – shrinks the amount of flow of nutrients to that area. Take your athletes for example: They get injured they pack ice on it – what happens? Bruising normally means that you’re swelling and the swelling is increasing those nutrients to the area. You cut that off and what happens? These athletes are constantly getting surgery because they’re starting over – because they’re not cleaning out the dead cells; they’re just forcing themselves to create scar tissue – it means putting bricks in the wall – dead cells to heal an area.

Audience

Because you heal can you do hot, cold, cold, hot, going to cold, hot, cold?

Aajonus

You can do cold for two minutes, but you don’t want to jump in ice, unless you’re a polar bear. Ok – do you have a question?

Audience

What are your thoughts about Alzheimer’s and Dementia?

Aajonus

Well, Alzheimers – a lot of it comes from mercury. Also, it’s been related to aluminum poisoning – both of those. I’m not sure that aluminum on its own will cause that because, according to Calgary University’s research, the lesions of it created in neurons were only created with mercury and not when they applied aluminum, and barium and other minerals. So, I think that it is connected with aluminum because a lot of people are discharging aluminum – I’ve had a lot of high aluminum levels from vaccines – and that includes mercury and aluminum. So, I think they’re associating aluminum to dementia too often.

Audience

[unintelligible]

Aajonus

Yeah, but I haven’t seen it confirmed by anybody. Calgary is the only one that I knew who has done definitive research on that. If you look at the lesions, the fractionation of the neurons only occurred in the company of mercury and not in the minerals. So, aluminum does not create a neurological condition of degeneration. Now, it can interfere with synapse transmission, but it doesn’t cause neuronal decay like mercury does. So, it’s mostly from mercury poisoning and you have had a lot of that and it takes a lot to get that out.

Now since I was subdued in that hotel room and injected with those three shots my mercury levels, my aluminum levels are off the charts. Same with vaccines – I’ve had two vaccines. So, that’s obvious to me what they have injected me with. Now, my hair’s gone very grey and I’ve lost six teeth now since I was injected. And I have berries with eggs and vinegar and pineapple almost every day to get rid of those poisons faster and lots of cheese to help remove that. And after those injections my skin was bursting open and bruising and bleeding. It happened over when I headed back – and it looks like I was hit with a grenade – the shrapnel from a bomb.

Audience

Eggs, berries and what else?

Aajonus

Pineapple, vinegar and berries – all of those chelate with those metal toxins.

Audience

Does it get out the vaccines?

Aajonus

And heavy metals.

Audience

What's the formula, everybody does it different amounts?

Aajonus

Well it depends: If you have a higher level aluminum you have more raspberries and strawberries; if you have more mercury, lead and other dark metals, then the dark berries are preferable. Now, blueberries are very good and they take it out smoothly. If you have blackberries you’re going to have a heavier detox – even have some dementia as you detox some of that mercury with blackberries.

Audience

Those bigger berries, you’re talking about?

Aajonus

Blackberries.

Audience

What about raspberries?

Aajonus

Like I said – raspberries are good for getting aluminum and iron.

Audience

So, what’s the proportion of the vinegar and things like that?

Aajonus

Well, it depends upon what you can take. It depends – when I’m making it I’ll make three cups to four cups a day and I’ll drink it throughout the day instead of the milkshakes. I still have my other foods but I don’t drink that within let’s say 45 minutes of a meat meal. And that is my fruit meal; I just spread the fruit meal throughout the day instead of having it one time of the day.

And I will have about four to five eggs in it, depending upon the size of the eggs – medium eggs will be four; small ones I’ll have five eggs; I’ll have about a half a cup of cream; I’ll have about one and a quarter cup of berries; I use a mixture – I use raspberries, blueberries and blackberries. I want to make sure I’m getting a whole lot. And then I’ll use about one to two tbsp. of vinegar.

And do the two tbsp. every day for let’s say no more than 10 days. You’re going to have to cut it down to one tbsp. a day for maybe five days and then you go back to two tbsp. for 10 days – and just rotate it like that. If you just have a lot of vinegar you’re going to stop digesting some of those foods – stop absorbing them.

Audience

It depends on the person – one tbsp. probably if you’re smaller set?

Aajonus

Yeah. Unless you’re very heavy set – you can add two. And then I’ll have about a tbsp. of honey and then sometimes two tbsp. if I’m having four cups. And I’ll either have half a cup of milk or half a cup of whey.

Audience

[unintelligible]

Aajonus

I’ll sip it throughout the day – I’ll have like two ounces at a time maybe every 20 minutes – and that’s in between eating my cheese – I have my cheese every 20 minutes. Ok – do you have a question, Ann?

Audience

Question about [unintelligible].

Aajonus

You have to eat pineapple on a regular basis. I use a thin slice, it equals about a third of a cup – three ounces by volume of pineapple in that mixture. Pineapple and coconut cream is very helpful to help break it down, but the body will never do it properly without hot baths. If you’re going to break down the lymphatic waste under the skin it takes about 45 minutes at 105 degrees staying temperature, so a hot tub is very necessary.

Audience

What was the question – I couldn’t hear?

Aajonus

She asked about relieving lymphatic congestion.

Audience

Oh, ok.

Aajonus

If you want to get rid of lymphatic congestion that means you want to get the lymphatic system clear of the congestion – that takes a 90 minute bath a day at about 105 degrees. And it’s hard to do that – people have difficulty staying in a hot tub that long – so I say watch a movie and have a bowl of ice water running next to you with ice cubes floating in it and a wash cloth – sit that on top of your head – stick your hand – you know, fist in there up to your wrists – two minutes – you’ll want to stay in the tub. It automatically cancels out wanting to get out of the tub. So – and that’s the way it stays. Some people if they’re very overweight they get heat prostration quickly – they may have to do that every 10-15 minutes, so normally a person does that once every 20 minutes.

Audience

Does massage help at all?

Aajonus

Massage won’t really do anything for that – it’ll cause a breakage in the lymphatic and make it worse. True lymphatic massage to me is a tickle, so it electrically moves things – so you’re tickling them. You know how sometimes you get tickled? That’s driving the electricity in the system – in a blocked system. When you’re ticklish or you’re very sensitive to touch like that, that means your lymphatic system is blocked and the neurological system. And a lot of that energy is charged up under your skin. So, taking the hot baths, getting tickle massages helps to relieve that again.

Audience

You know in your book you say 102-106. Now you’re saying 105 – so, has that changed?

Aajonus

Yeah – I’m changing it, yeah. I just wanted it to be safe. Originally it was 110 – that’s a typo.

Audience

Yeah.

Aajonus

It was supposed to be 101 to start off slow.

Audience

That’s really tough, man – being in there and sat for about 10 minutes and you get your knees in,

Aajonus

You know, with the 110, so –

Audience

so –

Aajonus

Like I say: Take that bowl of cold water with you and you stick your fists all the way up to your wrists in there and put a cold cloth on top of your head – you’ll want to stay in there. It won’t be tough.

Audience

Ice pack is not as good – just an ice pack?

Aajonus

Ice pack is a little too cold.

Audience

Yeah, because I put an ice pack and it really just does my head in – I just felt awful.

Aajonus

No, you don’t do that – you got to put a towel up there – at least double the towel on top if you’re going to use an ice pack.

Audience

Now Aajonus, you say it’s a 105, but does that mean you’re sitting in the tub? Because I’ve taken my temperature – if I’m sitting up I can have it 105 and half of me is up and I can take it, but at 102 I have to be in the tub to get just my nose just sticking out and my mouth, right. So, when you say 105 do you mean you’re –

Aajonus

Your whole body should be under.

Audience

So, your body temperature’s got to be near a 105 then?

Aajonus

No, it won’t be 105 because the body will always cools itself by three degrees minimum.

Audience

I’ve had my body temperature almost – when I had the tub at 102 – I’ve had my body temperature a half a degree below that – 101 and a half.

Aajonus

Yeah, but once you go above 102 it won’t elevate – even if you’re 105 degrees – the body’s not going to get hotter than 102 except under the skin. If you take your temperature under the arm you’re going to be almost as hot as the water, but if you stick it in your rectum or in your mouth, you’re going to be about 102 in a 105 degrees.

Audience

So, what’s the minimum body temperature you want it to be then?

Aajonus

I don’t worry about body temperature – I worry about the 105 degrees I’ve found consistently because the body needs that to do –

Audience

Of the water, right?

Aajonus

The water has to be 105 degrees.

Audience

I have a sauna.

Aajonus

Sauna’s a dry heat and – minimum is a 137 in one of those infrareds – it's too hot. You start to destroy the enzymes and mucous membranes managing the cells at 110-112 degrees, so you’re damaging the mucous membranes by being in a sauna or a steam bath. You cannot go over 110 degrees because it will destroy the enzymes and vitamins in your skin.

Audience

How long do you leave the ice cubes?

Aajonus

Two minutes.

Audience

No, I’m talking about out of the freezer. You take the ice packs at the tub –

Aajonus

Yeah, you take cold water, you put ice cubes in it and you leave it out – you leave it at the tub with you. As long as there’s ice cubes that water is going to stay cold. If the ice cubes melt then it’s not going to stay cold.

Audience

I’ve been having trouble finding a thermometer for the water – I don’t know where to go.

Aajonus

A pool thermometer’s good.

Audience

What? [unintelligible] Who’s? What’s it called? I use a drug store thermometer.

Aajonus

Swimming pool. Ok do you have a question, Gill?

Audience

I’m hearing a lot of talk about arsenic: How do you get rid of it; how do you keep it from [unintelligible]?

Aajonus

It’s difficult because they’re putting in arsenic in all grains because it makes the animals fat – they swell up; they gain more weight. Arsenic is very toxic – the body’s gaining fat to protect itself from the arsenic poisons. They also use it as a pesticide to keep moths and rodents out of the grain fills. So, they are fed commercial grains and they have arsenic in it. So, I stopped eating – even Amos today [unintelligible] and he does feed them a processed fish meal which has arsenic in it.

Audience

What are we going to do about our [unintelligible] this winter that is coming?

Aajonus

I said in winter time I don’t eat eggs or chicken.

Audience

Well then what do you eat?

Aajonus

I just eat only meat now. I stopped eating fish because of Fukushima and the radiation.

Audience

You heard about the Santa Monica sea food?

Aajonus

Santa Monica sea food?

Audience

You said last time that you eat the Santa Monica sea food.

Aajonus

That was before Fukushima.

Audience

But that was the last problem.

Aajonus

No, I said if you eat deep sea fish – certain ones are probably ok, but I don’t even trust it now because the radiation levels getting higher every week.

Audience

What about Atlantic fish?

Aajonus

Atlantic – you’ve got the [unintelligible] travelling up from the Gulf, constantly seeping.

Audience

Oysters are the only safe things to eat?

Aajonus

No, not even those. I will not eat any sea food unless I’m in the Philippines, or [unintelligible] or somewhere around there because the Fukushima comes east to America. It’s hasn’t got down to the Philippines yet.

Audience

What about the oysters – they’ve got a hard shell – they’re not going to go into that.

Aajonus

They absorb it in the shell. Well, the oysters will absorb it into the shells; clams and mussels will absorb it into the meat and shell.

Audience

Well then it’s ok for me to get the blue clam oysters, isn’t it?

Aajonus

I said I don’t know – that’s the way it used to be, but I haven’t tested any oysters since I’ve returned. You can break open the meat and test it with a Geiger counter and see if there are radioactive isotopes in the oyster meat.

Audience

For the chickens – is that across the board in the whole of the United States?

Aajonus

When my Amish Farmers are feeding the chickens commercial feed – that’s the limit.

Audience

So, then we have very little to eat – just beef in the morning and –

Aajonus

That’s right – yep. Dairy and fruit.

Audience

Giving the scraps for your own chickens.

Aajonus

Wonderful. Giving it your chickens is wonderful – you’re not feeding them arsenic. But anytime you buy a feed from anywhere unless it’s an organic farmer that doesn’t store his feed – there’s going to be arsenic in it.

Audience

[unintelligible]

Aajonus

Yeah – well, I just grew my grains. I got 210 ninety pound bags of rice for my Thailand property. Now I’ll feed that to my workers. It does not leave my property. What they do is they build a shit house – literally. They take cow shit and mud and then make the walls that way – it keeps out the rats and everybody else. So, it’s really a shit house. So, they’ve got grass on there and they coat it to plaster and they plaster it with cow shit and mud.

Audience

When is the winter starting for Amos’ farm?

Aajonus

He starts feeding them somewhere around mid-late December. Then I don’t eat anything until May – no eggs or chickens – unless they promise me there’s not any. They make their own food they have to use arsenic in it – they’re not buying from any store. So, they buy it from a local farmer who has to put it on the market and he’s organic grain foods. And from what I understand they’re all using commercial feed grains now.

Audience

That’s just four months.

Aajonus

Yeah, that’s four months at best.

Audience

Yeah. To May?

Aajonus

June through December. And you know, you have to get on Amos’ and Eli’s case and say: “Hey, grow your own stuff instead of getting it someplace else.”

Audience

Or we stop buying it – that’s all?

Aajonus

Yeah, and they lose a lot of money.

Audience

You can’t make that drink – that berry drink that you gave for vaccines?

Aajonus

That’ll help, but you’ve got other toxins to deal with. Arsenic is not easy – arsenic is a very dangerous poison; it causes heart attacks; it causes liver failure – it causes all kinds of problems. Arsenic is a very dangerous substance.

Audience

So, if you get organic grain is it going to have arsenic in it too?

Aajonus

Could be if you buy commercial – you have to test it. Mine doesn’t of course, but I don’t sell mine – it feeds my workers and my cows. And of course –

Audience

If you go to someone who grows their grains and say: “Look, I want your feed –

Aajonus

Absolutely, yeah. And if I were going to eat rice – which I don’t – I would store it in big jars of glass. Moths can’t breathe in there – there’s no oxygen for them and so you tack it and keep it. No rats.

Well, let me put it this way: When I was in the desert I had a jar of nuts and seeds – the wild rats would actually unscrew the jars – actually unscrew the jar. So, I had to put lock caps on them – literally. They do consider the rat the smartest animal next to the human. I think they’re smarter than humans – rats don’t go around poisoning each other for profit. Do you have a question?

Audience

Yeah, I’ve pulled a muscle in the shoulder? Anything other than hot water bottles; lubrication formula?

Aajonus

Yeah, when you pull a muscle that means you’ve torn – you have lesions in it – you’ve torn the muscle. Then, you do like boxers and put raw meat on it and a hot water bottle. Also –

Audience

Hot water bottle and meat at the same time?

Aajonus

Yes. With meat on, then the hot water bottle – but, it’s better if you put just a little bit of honey and butter mixture on the meat – just a thin layer and then butter on the one side, a thin cloth over that – cotton or silk – and then a piece of plastic over that, and then an ace bandage over that, so it doesn’t dry out.

That way you can keep using the same piece of meat for two to three days until it stinks. I will use it beyond stinks – I don’t give a shit because it will heal much faster if it’s decaying meat. So, I will just use it until I can’t stand it and I can’t sleep then I don’t use it. Then I’ll change the meat. And if you do that usually a torn muscle will heal in about 12 days. [unintelligible] it will still take about six weeks - normally it takes about a year and a half.

Audience

Anything internally?

Aajonus

Pineapple’s helpful, to get rid of the foreign tissue. Not a lot of pineapple, but if you have a little bit all day long. Like in the mixture I said with the berries, only if you have pineapple. And just sip it throughout the day and you’ll heal a little bit faster because the bromelain in the pineapple will help break down the dead cells that will bruise and damage the calf. Ok? Do you have a question?

Audience

When I was very young I had a life threatening case of pneumonia and to save my life they chocked me full of antibiotics. So, forever after I’ve had serious killer migraines. Even since that pneumonia antibiotic incident.

Aajonus

Well, nobody has deadly pneumonia – you’re just very sick. But the pharmaceutical industry – the medical industry - are terrorists, so they’ll get you to take anything that they believe. And they’re taught to be that stupid – they don’t observe – they’re just taught to panic and react; they’re not taught to experiment and observe. They’re not allowed to experiment – that’s against the law. The laws of the AMA who follow the pharmaceutical industry’s advice – they write all the procedure manuals. If you don’t follow the pharmaceutical industry’s advice, you are breaking the AMA law. So, they get punished. So, they follow what they’re told and they’re told to be terrorists.

So, what happens when you take an antibiotic for five days? You lose one percent of all bodily functions. The body is 99.99% bacteria. Antibiotics destroy all bacteria – in a five day cycle you lose one percent of the body’s abilities. Every five days you take off a whole percent. To recover on a good diet it takes about two years to recover one percent – two years. If you do this optimal diet of mine and eat high meat you can get over it quicker.

The bowel is the area that feeds the brain and the nervous system. So, the bacteria in your colon has never recovered and the only way you can get it to recover is to implant a high meat juice in to your rectum and then massage it in and let it distribute it in there. Or, eat lots of high meat – like probably several times a day for three months and then the problem will all be restored within another five months and you have to do it for three months again. If you implant it in your rectum and you massage and you do your belly roll to make it go into your system up into the whole colon, that one implant of about three ounces of that high meat juice can keep you going for three months – just one time.

Audience

Can you swallow high meat instead of chew it?

Aajonus

Yeah – yeah. High meat’s pre-digested – you don’t have to chew it.

Audience

What kind of jars are you asking us to put it in?

Aajonus

Glass.

Audience

No – I know glass, but what size of jars?

Aajonus

Depending on how much you want to make and how much you intend to use.

Audience

Now, don’t fill it to the top?

Aajonus

No, only half full always.

Audience

Half full?

Aajonus

Yeah. You need an air space in there – you need both aerobic and anaerobic bacteria.

Audience

I just read that we have bacterial DNA in our DNA which our nearest relative animal don’t have; that we have something unique.

Aajonus

Well, a lot of us don’t have it anymore because of vaccines.

Audience

Don’t have what?

Aajonus

This particular DNA that other animals don’t have.

Audience

Oh.

Aajonus

Pig has almost identical to what we have.

Audience

So, what does the antibiotics have to do with the migraines and [unintelligible]?

Aajonus

The brain and the nervous system are fed from the colon. Her colon bacteria was wiped out. The brain is not getting the food it needs, so it swells. The brain is constantly swollen because it’s trying to get all the nutrients and they can never get all the amino acids because she’s not digesting properly – that causes constant brain swelling.

Audience

Oh, ok.

Aajonus

I’m sorry I didn’t explain that – I’m glad you asked. You didn’t understand that until I said that too, right? Probably nobody did.

Audience

I did.

Aajonus

Sometimes I say things – come to conclusions.

Audience

Is there any other way to treat the brain swelling? Any additional way?

Aajonus

Only way you can do is feed the nervous system properly and that’s by eating high meat if you don’t digest properly in the colon. See, all that food is digested – it feeds every part of the body in to the small intestines. Once it gets in to the colon you’re getting to the finite particle breakdown – it feeds the brain and nervous system – the neuron cells and the neurological cells. So, that is a whole process in itself – that’s a very short trap. That very long small intestines feeds everything else in the body – that colon is strictly for the nervous system and brain. If it is not operating you can have migraines, you can have autism and it can have all kinds of problems. And it maybe unrelated to mercury at all – the brain is just a vision – depending on what kind of antibiotics you got. Tetracycline was a bad one – I mean it caused so much ADD – it was amazing.

Audience

[unintelligible]

Aajonus

Yeah, the brain. Yeah, I was of the view that I did lots of tetracycline or cocaine.

Audience

Yeah, I actually just told my Mom that I it was from lots of tetracycline when I was inside her.

Aajonus

Oh, no.

Audience

What is that – an antibiotic?

Aajonus

Yes, an antibiotic – that was 60’s – came out in the 60’s. Late 60’s, to 70’s, early 80’s.

Audience

That was in the 50’s wasn’t it?

Aajonus

That was just beginning to use it intravenously.

Audience

They did it in the military though.

Aajonus

Oh, yeah. They were doing that first.

Audience

How do you make high meat juice?

Aajonus

You let it go long enough – you leave it out. When it starts juicing at the bottom – turns into black juice – that’s completely digested – completely – absolutely digestible liquid. One tsp. of that can make you as happy as a [unintelligible].

Audience

Can you put it garlic in there? Like garlic or something to make it taste better?

Aajonus

Well, you can put it with milk. It’s better if you just drink and wash it down with milk.

Audience

Like a tsp. in an ounce of milk?

Aajonus

Yeah, you can do that. Or, just take a tsp. and wash it down with milk. If you leave it in your mouth some of that’s going to go right to the brain immediately and you get happy. If you leave it in your mouth for two minutes you’re going to get silly.

Audience

Aajonus, do you have any of that juice available that [unintelligible].

Aajonus

I would be in jail.

Audience

How long does it take to get to drink – how many days?

Aajonus

Well, if you leave it out at room temperature and you’re exposing it to some light – not direct light – and you’re opening it and the meat’s not dry it will start breaking down pretty quickly, but it takes a while, maybe six weeks.

Audience

For what – the juice?

Aajonus

Yeah, it starts producing juice.

Audience

Just open it up and close it in the house?

Aajonus

No, you want to take it outside. But you don’t want to open it as often even though it’s outside of the refrigerator. I still will open every three of four days. You want anaerobic bacteria rather than aerobic bacteria. Okay, do you have a question?

Audience

Aajonus, you just said that the lymphatic system detoxes through the skin. And, like, people who have kidney stones, and the stones are released in the urinary tract. My question is, is it possible that you can get, like, stones or crystals through the skin, where when the lymphatic system is detoxing and having a bath, you're going to think that it comes through the skin?

Aajonus

No, your body will melt it.

Audience

It will melt it?

Aajonus

It will melt it. That's the point. It will melt it. To get it into a liquid so you can pass it through the skin, you can't pass a stone through the skin. When you have kidney stones and kidney crystals or kidney sand, your body still has to dissolve that, or else you're going to have a lot of pain if you pass it.

Audience

And the skin can't release those stones?

Aajonus

If the lymphatic system is moving.

Audience

If it's moving, it will through the skin?

Aajonus

Yes.

Audience

Wow.

Aajonus

Most of those toxic, crystallized minerals will release through the skin.

Audience

What about sauna? Is it any good?

Aajonus

I said, saunas are not good because it's too hot. You have a question?

Audience

Well, because we've been getting so many chemtrails lately, I was just wondering, do you need any data on that? Or what is the best thing to eat?

Aajonus

Well, like I said in the newsletter, you just follow the berries, eat more raspberries, because they're dumping more aluminum than anything else. And if you understand the chemistry of aluminum, aluminum causes five times more charge than an explosion. Most of your gunpowder, they add 25% aluminum to make it five times more powerful to explode. They use aluminum in everything, every munition, to make the explosion greater, the damage greater. So they're filling us with aluminum, injecting us with vaccines, and bombarding us.

Now, the technology where my father worked with General Electric was invented. He worked with turning salt into an explosive, which they could not do. This was General Electric's patent to do this. The saltless sodium, when it's isolated, is more volatile than nitroglycerin. One and a half degree change sets it off. They couldn't make it a weapon, so it's still not a weapon. But they still use aluminum that way as an explosive enhancer.

So HAARP was another thing, using energy levels to change the structure of things. They can set HAARP to make you explode inside wherever there's aluminum. So now you know why they're bombarding us with mostly aluminum from the air. You're inhaling all that, it starts combining with salt, and let's say some other minerals like iodine. What's going to happen if they direct a charge from HAARP on you? You're going to explode. Parts of your body are just going to explode. You're going to bleed to death inside. You're going to have heart attacks. You're going to have liver failure. You're going to have aneurysms. People are going to start dropping dead if they do that. So they're planning. They're planning on your death. They say it's all weather modification. It's been proven that even though you're seeding storms, you have less storms when seeding. It just makes it harder and harder to seed to get a rainstorm.

Audience

You notice that the rain has been some areas will get it and others will not. This is all terrain. You just look up at the sky. We have to get somebody in the top military office.

Aajonus

Military's behind it.

Audience

Where we stand, I mean, I've been putting out flyers.

Aajonus

You just have to take care of yourself the best you can.

Audience

Right, you're handing out and protesting.

Aajonus

You have to take care of your body the best you can. That's all you can really do.

Audience

Protesting is going to do nothing then?

Aajonus

That's not the way I see it. As long as we have Obama and everybody else in office, no matter who gets it in office.

Audience

What about Harry Johnson?

Aajonus

He's not going to get there. Ron Paul's the only promise we had. He's not going to make it. They won't let him.

Audience

If you're outside and you see chemtrails?

Aajonus

I don't go outside.

Audience

Come inside?

Aajonus

I just go inside. If I go outside, I wear my Israeli gas mask.

Audience

I just have that organic cotton mask. I can't wear that heavy thing on my face.

Aajonus

No, well, I do. I use that heavy thing. I got pulled over. Why they think I had that on? Because I was a terrorist. I was crossing the border from Mexico to here. I had it in my truck. They pulled me over and searched everything. Because I have a gas mask. So why do you have a gas mask? You're a terrorist? I said, do you know the spill from the highways in California? All you have to do is expose [unintelligible]. And, you know, you're being [unintelligible] life. So if there's an accident, I protect myself. I go out to my truck, put that on, and I protect it. I said, why do you use a gas mask? Are you a terrorist? That's an analogy.

Audience

[unintelligible]

Aajonus

People are going to have to revolt. People are going to have to shut down the planes that are taking off. There's going to have to be some way to stop it. And the only way to stop it is to know where those planes are coming from and stop them.

Audience

What about that Mike Murphy film? He just made his second one.

Aajonus

He's making awareness, but nobody's stopping it. Nobody's stopping it.

Audience

I mean, the guys that know about it, they don't even see that people know the film. They just know that you know about what you're doing. They know it's nothing they can do to stop it. What? We have to stand out on the street and get the news made. [unintelligible]

Aajonus

See, when you lay a seeding like that, the exhaust from those planes magnifies it. Why? Because they add the water to that chemtrails. So they make the chemtrails stay longer.

Audience

Is that why the water vapor is staying longer too? Because of the chemtrails?

Aajonus

Because it's mixing with the chemtrails. But now they don't evolve, so now the contrails won't disappear.

Audience

Oh, that makes sense.

Aajonus

The contrails enhance it. If there's no seeding, the contrails will disappear. If there's seeding, the moisture from the plane stays in the chemicals in the seeding.

Audience

Well, wait a minute. What about, you said we can go to the LA County Board of Supervisors and have a hearing there, but I don't think that would do anything, would it?

Aajonus

Well, they'd have to get on the military to stop bombarding us. They'll say, oh, well, we bombard up in, you know, because they bombard in Ventura and over me in Malibu. And then it drifts, most of it drifts over here. They don't really streak this area too much. They do it in Malibu and Ventura and then let it drift over there.

Audience

They call that camp bombing. That's what I learned at the conference.

Aajonus

Anyway.

Audience

I'm just saying it proves it's the military doing it because a commercial plane couldn't fly in those directions. They're not allowed. Only the military is allowed to fly in those spots.

Aajonus

Yeah, but we even have the contrails that add to those patterns.

Audience

Oh, the commercial planes.

Aajonus

Yes.

Audience

I get it.

Aajonus

Commercial planes add to the military.

Audience

Is there any safer place to live or is this just everywhere?

Aajonus

It's all over the world except for certain islands in the Philippines. It's the only place I have not found. In fact, even in Puerto Princesa in Palawan, they are bombing there. But where my property is in Palawan, there's no bombing.

Audience

Wow. Because it's too small?

Aajonus

Yeah. Because it's almost 2% [unintelligible].

Audience

Does it drift over you in any way?

Aajonus

They don't get a shot there. Sure. You know, there's the wind. Sometimes the rain clouds will move over. And I take them out when it rains every day. Every day of the week.

Audience

[unintelligible] So we all get to live in this island.

Aajonus

I have some people who have already done it. They live in their own farms. That's for sure. It's a lot more expensive than here. It's almost double what it is here. It's worth it. That's what I'm trying to say. It's worth it.

I've got very clean food. And the other place in the Thailand, my farm there, I get bombarded all the time. But I'm right at the foot of a mountain. So I've got the clouds from the mountains protecting me from their chemtrails. And so far, that's being mandated by law.

Audience

Hey, you said to use your newsletter for the chemtrails? If we do that, is that sufficient? If they HAARP us to be immune to that?

Aajonus

Well, you've just got to get a lot of the aluminum out. And I would say you've got a lot of aluminum out because you're gray. Nothing causes more gray in a body. It destroys the para-aminobenzoic acid, which regulates pigmentation of skin and hair. So when aluminum gets into the molecules, the paths are no longer being utilized for pigmentation, so the hair will go gray from aluminum. So if you're gray, you know you're discharging a lot of aluminum.

Like when I was discharging, having all this was gray at one time, this was all gray. It keeps going in and out. If I'm discharging aluminum more than anything else, my hair goes more gray. You're discharging more aluminum. So you're lowering your enhancement of explosions.

Audience

Yeah, but Lewis is black, but I'm sure he's healthier than me because he's been on the diet a lot longer than me. He's probably already gotten the aluminum out, right?

Aajonus

Not necessarily. If you have a hair test, you'll see. But a hair test won't really do it unless this hair is gray, you're going to see a high aluminum content. If it's not gray, you may not see a high aluminum content. You'd have to check the blood or the urine to see what the content of the fluid system is to see if you have a high aluminum content.

Audience

I'm sure I still have tons of aluminum inside me.

Aajonus

You could, yeah.

Audience

What I'm trying to get at is people on the diet, or if we're just on the diet, and if we're following what you said in the newsletter to do because of chemtrails.

Aajonus

If you're trying to reduce the possibility of your dying.

Audience

But we won't be completely immune to it.

Aajonus

You might have quite a few spots in your body that explode, like on my leg.

Audience

Yeah, but we'll survive it maybe.

Aajonus

You're going to recover. Other people are not going to recover. They're going to run to the doctor and get injections and poisons and everything.

Audience

You didn't come soon enough.

Aajonus

I've been here a long time. You didn't wake up soon enough.

Audience

No, I mean that's a big bit, the hospital.

Aajonus

Oh, you didn't come soon enough, yes.

Audience

I didn't wake up soon enough. You mentioned iodine, like okay, don't eat salt because that adds to the explosives. But you mentioned iodine.

Aajonus

Salt is an explosive.

Audience

Right.

Aajonus

Once the body isolates the iodine from the sodium, the sodium is concentrated, it's an explosive.

Audience

So it's not that you can't eat fish or seaweed or something?

Aajonus

If you would cook the seaweed, yes.

Audience

Yeah, don't cook it. Of course, if I'm having my car topper out, that's not going to do anything. Just make light about the chemtrails, that won't change anything.

Aajonus

What?

Audience

My car topper about chemtrails, that won't change anything.

Aajonus

Well, you're going to make more people aware. And you probably will get it stopped sooner or later. But it's not going to be for long. Yes, Lucky. First of all, let's thank Lucky again. [applause] He has everything in his hand so he doesn't have to do it again.

Audience

Let me see if I get this straight. We've got being poisoned from the sky, we've got hidden GMOs in our food, and we've got Fukushima coming along with China coal dust. You know... I think we should have more sex, more drugs. Die. Yeah, I mean there's no way of getting away from it.

Aajonus

Yes, we could move away.

Audience

There are parts of the planet that are in those chemtrails. They're everywhere. The GMOs are hidden in all the food. So, there really is... And you say these things that you say you go out, you don't go outside. What difference does it make if you don't go outside? The cows you're eating and drinking from are...

Aajonus

Yes, and I can reduce the load. Yeah, and most of the raw animals...

Audience

Yeah, you can help. What's it like not going outside? I mean, how can you go far? You [unintelligible], or ride your bicycle, or take a hike, or do yoga. If you don't go outside, you can do that inside.

Aajonus

Do it at night time.

Audience

The radiation doesn't go away at night. Fukushima radiation doesn't go away at night.

Aajonus

No, but I'm saying chemtrails can reduce that. Well, you have to understand that even isotope particles are charged higher during the sunlight. It's more likely to rip you to pieces if one gets inside you.

Audience

So you don't sunbathe anymore?

Aajonus

Not here. I will get a massage outside when I get a massage. You know, once every week or once every two weeks. I will do it in the sun if there's no chemtrails. Chemtrails, I won't do it in the sun.

Audience

You know, they hide chemtrails. You can't always tell those chemtrails.

Aajonus

I know the coloration of chemtrails, I can always tell. There's a rainbow-type... In its faint areas, there's a rainbow-type sheen to it. I can always tell chemtrails.

Audience

The GMOs have got it out now. We're going to have it on the ballot, but we need to get something like that.

Aajonus

Do you know how many companies are exempted from having the label? It's a step in the right direction. But we won't be protected from it. It's a start.

Audience

It's just a way to get people aware of it.

Aajonus

It's a start. Everybody vote for 37, absolutely. Even though it's not perfect, it's a step in the right direction.

Audience

Yes, on 37?

Aajonus

Yes, on 37, absolutely.

Audience

So what about 32?

Aajonus

That's political. Yes?

Audience

I've been out of town for a while. I bought some liver that's stored in the plastic. It's been in the fridge in the plastic for about a month. It seems like it's kind of breaking down. I was going to throw it out.

Aajonus

Open it, pour out the stuff, and scrape off the outside.

Audience

Pour out the juice?

Aajonus

Pour out the blood. And then take a knife, a flat knife, and cut the plastic off of the liver. Eat it.

Audience

Okay. So it isn't progressing any towards being high or anything?

Aajonus

No, you don't want to progress it in the plastic, because you're going to get Phthalates.

Audience

Then again, separately, I have a bison heart that's been sitting in the fridge probably for two months. I ate a lot of it, but then I got tired of it. Can I slice that up and take it out of the fridge and make it high?

Aajonus

Glass or plastic?

Audience

Glass.

Aajonus

Okay, good.

Audience

So I can take it out of the fridge and make it high. Out of the fridge.

Aajonus

Cut it up into smaller pieces.

Audience

Yeah, but then after it's sat out for a week or something like that, can I then put it back in the fridge and treat it like regular high meat? Or is it destined to be out of the fridge forever?

Aajonus

No, once it's digested, it's digested. So putting it back in the refrigerator isn't going to cause it not to be digested all of a sudden. You cannot reverse the digestion process. Only inside meat, I mean inside a creature's body can you reignite it into something bioactive.

Audience

So I can start eating this as high meat?

Aajonus

And if you want really, really high meat, really, really fast, have [unintelligible]. And then spread it out a little bit, move it out, leave a little air space on it, and then let that break down. You could even put a little, you know, mist it with a little milk.

Audience

I always like liver pâté. I always like liver pâté.

Aajonus

Yeah.

Audience

But I don't know, this might get a little strong.

Aajonus

Yeah, but once you've already made it, you can blend it with milk.

Audience

Oh.

Aajonus

It's cool for you.

Audience

Yeah. So you can have high meat with milk, and it doesn't really make a difference.

Aajonus

As long as the milk isn't cold, you can't eat cold milk.

Audience

You couldn't do that with the liver formula with 50% meat and 50% milk.

Aajonus

Yeah, you can do that.

Audience

Really?

Aajonus

Yeah. You don't blend it with cold milk.

Audience

Okay, but it still gives you the results

Aajonus

Yeah. Absolutely.

Audience

of high meat. Okay. Thank you.

Aajonus

Just remember that high meat is when the protein is completely digested in the meat, just the way you would do in the cold. That's why people get high in 10 to 20 minutes of eating high meat, because it's already pretty digested. It gets right into the blood, right to the brain and nervous system.

Audience

It's a really, really strong soup or, like it was totally fermented, but like two seconds after I drank it, I was just like whoop. It was all digested. But didn't you at some place warn us not to have a lot of milk with the meat meal?

Aajonus

Well, you don't want to have a lot of milk with a meat meal that is not pre-digested. It will prevent meat from being digested. Your body is going to work on the milk more than the meat.

Audience

So high meat is exactly from that.

Aajonus

It's different, yes.

Audience

Okay. You can do enema with high meat.

Aajonus

That's what I said. Yep. You can do that.

Audience

Even with chunks?

Aajonus

Yeah. You can be pretty high. I don't know about that. You'd probably be a good athlete if you did that. A phenomenal athlete.

Audience

Why?

Aajonus

Your body would have such coordination.

Audience

With what?

Aajonus

If you did an implant of a quart of high meat in your bowel. He's a bigger guy than you. Say you did it with a cup and a half.

Audience

Before you go dancing, you'd be able to dance all night.

Aajonus

Pardon?

Audience

Before you go dancing, you'd be able to dance all night.

Aajonus

Yeah. By yourself. I did it one time. I did it one time. I didn't sleep for three days. I didn't get sleep. I had sex five times a day. That's pretty good. One time at his place in 2000, it was December 1999, I think it was. Right before [unintelligible] and Y2K.

And we butchered a deer. Yeah. And we took all the glands in the brain and we blended them together. I was dead tired because I'd done a workshop and seen patients for two days. And I had to go pick up my girlfriend at the airport in Reno, Nevada. And they lived in Nevada City, California. So I had to go from...

Audience

It's about a two-hour drive.

Aajonus

Yeah. About two and a half at night. And so I had to drive and I didn't have any sleep. I didn't have my normal nap because he shot the deer. So I had to butcher it. So I didn't get my nap in. So we ate those glands and put them all in this big, you know, blender. Yeah, and we ate it. I had so much energy. When Lori got off the plane, we had nothing but sex for five hours. And I still couldn't sleep. I couldn't sleep.

Audience

So you made a shake out of all these glands?

Aajonus

All the glands.

Audience

Just right here?

Aajonus

Yes.

Audience

The eyeballs, the brain?

Aajonus

Everything. Everything.

Audience

[unintelligible] But it's good. But when it's warm, it's right, that freshness.

Aajonus

Liver is almost all protein. So it's hard to digest for most people. You need a lot of fat to break it down. That's why I like the [unintelligible]. Pate. Pate. In fact, if you want to digest better, sleep less, and have more energy, pate all your meats. I eat everything pate. And I don't eat any whole meat anymore. I sleep three to four hours a day. And that's it. I'm done. No sleep at all. So when I eat whole meat in pieces, I will sleep five hours.

Audience

What's pate? Pate with butter?

Aajonus

Pardon?

Audience

Pate with butter?

Aajonus

No, I pate it by itself, and I add butter to it when I'm eating it.

Audience

Do you have to get one of those [unintelligible]?

Aajonus

No, I use a food processor. I take the meat, and I cut it up into little, you know, inch by inch cubes.

Audience

You don't use a blender?

Aajonus

Inch cubes.

Audience

Will you do it? Because you have to use a food processor.

Aajonus

Okay. I take a little meat, and I cut it into inch cubes. Then I put it in the food processor. You know, I'll fill it about halfway. And then I keep blending that in the food processor until it's pate. It takes about a minute. Only a minute.

Audience

And then you put butter in it?

Aajonus

It's a food processor. It's like a cuisinart.

Audience

Did you put butter in it, you say?

Aajonus

No, I put butter. As I'm eating, I put butter in it.

Audience

But you eat it with butter.

Aajonus

Yes.

Audience

What about the red onion?

Aajonus

Well, you know, that sauce I had with the meat, I eat a sauce with my meat.

Audience

Okay.

Aajonus

So it has onion, it has dill, it has all that. Did you have my meat? Did you like that sauce?

Audience

I might have missed that.

Aajonus

I don't know.

Audience

Well, it was great.

Aajonus

I'm glad.

Audience

What sauce was it?

Aajonus

The one with the brown sauce on top. Here it is. Taste the lick of the sauce.

Audience

Is that pate?

Aajonus

Yeah, there you go.

Audience

Is that pate? Oh, that's cheese in it, right?

Aajonus

No, that doesn't have cheese in it. What that is is it has a lot of dill, it has bay, it has a little basil, tomato is the main ingredient, and onion and garlic.

Audience

Oh, wonderful.

Aajonus

But it's mostly dill, I love dill. Probably about 20 sprigs of dill.

Audience

Oh, I can taste it now. Good. And did you put butter in it?

Aajonus

[unintelligible]

Audience

[unintelligible] I was going to have to ask you about that, but I didn't know anything about that.

Aajonus

That's where, with the moisturizing lubrication formula, having two days for the subsides, and then having one daily until the rest of their life. Unless it's a child, they can get over it in about 20 years, but an adult can never get over it unless they're constantly fed the butter.

Audience

Me? Yeah, I'm still stuck a little bit on the baths, because I did a whole lot this last summer, and exactly what you were saying. Like, but the hotter it was, the quicker I had to get out. Like, sometimes I couldn't take it after a half hour, and the more I did, I kind of thought I would get used to it. But no, I kind of like would hit a wall, and I couldn't do it for two, three days.

Aajonus

You have a lot of metals in the body.

Audience

Yeah.

Aajonus

Radioactive material. So you need those, that cold bowl.

Audience

Stick the hands in there?

Aajonus

Yeah, up to here. Put this in there. Not tight, because you want the water to get in to your palms, but just up to here. Two minutes. And then a cold cloth on you every two minutes. You're going to want to do nothing but stay in that water.

Audience

Now, when I do that, am I still in the tub?

Aajonus

Yes.

Audience

Okay, so like, but I have to get out a little bit. I sit up.

Aajonus

You'll sit up a little bit, yeah, for three minutes.

Audience

Okay, and then do that.

Aajonus

Yeah.

Audience

And then go back in the tub, and the tub's got to be 105.

Aajonus

Yeah.

Audience

And I lay down, so only my face is sticking out.

Aajonus

Well, I take it down to like, you know, I get down to like this, so, you know, only my nose is breathing, but the water is going like this.

Audience

Okay.

Aajonus

And of course, I cross my legs like this.

Audience

Yeah, and your knees are sticking out.

Aajonus

Mostly the knees, just a little bit.

Audience

Yeah.

Aajonus

Mostly I can get the knees down.

Audience

Yeah, my stomach sticks out too. Put your hand in there, yeah. [unintelligible] snorkel. [unintelligible]

Aajonus

That's okay.

Audience

Now, what I can't compute with is, because when you said it doesn't matter what your body temperature was, because you always said that you have to get your body hot enough to melt the hardened.

Aajonus

I get 102 degrees.

Audience

So, 102 is when that stuff starts to melt. So, if my body temperature actually only goes to 101, is it a waste of time?

Aajonus

No, because still under your skin, you're getting warmer. Just take your temperature under your armpit, and you'll see how hot your skin is getting.

Audience

So, it'll be different than the mouth.

Aajonus

But your blood may not get that hot. So, your blood is going to tell you the temperature, you know, your mouth temperature, your rectal temperature will tell you how hot your blood is getting.

Audience

Yeah. Well, the hottest I ever got, it was 101.5. And I don't know if the thermometer is totally accurate, because it was 93, no, 98.3 when I got in. So, maybe it's a little bit off. So, okay, so 102 is what the body temperature would need to be.

Aajonus

And if your blood is 101.5, you can better believe that your lymphatic system is 103.

Audience

Oh, really? How do you measure the lymphatic system?

Aajonus

No, you can't.

Audience

You can't?

Aajonus

You cut a hole and stick it in.

Audience

Oh, okay. So, it'll be hotter than your blood?

Aajonus

Your blood has a cooling system. Your lymphatic system doesn't have a cooling system.

Audience

Oh, yeah, because my heart pounds and I'm breathing deep, and that's part of the cooling. Oh, okay.

Aajonus

And you also have esters that cause you, like, anti-freeze, which causes a lowering of the blood temperature. Because you'll still have your blood at 105 degrees.

Audience

Okay, so the blood would be 102, and then your lymph will be about 105?

Aajonus

104.

Audience

104. So, the minimum lymph temperature you want is 104?

Aajonus

No, 102.

Audience

102 is the minimum lymph temperature. Oh, okay.

Aajonus

That's why if you're at 105 degrees for 90 minutes, that lymph system is going to reach 102, 103.

Audience

Oh, hey, I got it backwards then. I thought the lymph was hotter than the blood.

Aajonus

It is. So, if your blood temperature, the water temperature is 105, and you're staying in it for 90 minutes, the lymph system is going to reach 102, 103.

Audience

But when the water's 105, your blood's going to be how much? 102, you said?

Aajonus

Probably 101.5, 101.7.

Audience

But when I had the hot water in the tub, 102, I got to 102 with my taking it.

Aajonus

You have a lot of metals in your blood.

Audience

Oh, okay. So, I just need to keep doing those baths then.

Aajonus

You're using a cooling [unintelligible] to help your blood cool, so your blood doesn't heat up.

Audience

And what about lymphatic massage? Can you go over, like, where you massage up to where you massage down?

Aajonus

Remember, I said, tickle, because the only lymphatic massage you can be anywhere on your body.

Audience

Yeah, I know, but the direction you go, you're up to it, or you're down.

Aajonus

It's an electrical impulse, it doesn't matter.

Audience

It doesn't matter.

Aajonus

Well, the lymph goes everywhere.

Audience

Any place you should avoid going to work?

Aajonus

The lymph goes everywhere, just like the blood and the neurological system. It's in every tissue of your body. Unless it's blocked, into a particular area.

Audience

You have to exercise after, but you don't have to do that.

Aajonus

I had people do that for a long time, but when I started asking to do 90 minutes, it's not necessary to do after 90 minutes. If you only do 45 minutes to an hour, it's a good idea to walk or exercise. But you're doing 90 minutes to an hour, not necessary.

Audience

[unintelligible]. Because you're getting pretty wiped out after all that.

Aajonus

Yeah, absolutely.

Audience

So what do you do?

Aajonus

I tell everybody I do it once a day. Every day.

Audience

[unintelligible] I actually had some tiny little crystals, three of them, on my foot.

Aajonus

Congratulations.

Audience

I mean, I saw them and I thought, what is this? Because I took a towel and put it like this. I'm on my left foot right there on the side, right here. And I was rubbing it with my hand, but the skin gets really porous because of the hot water. And I rubbed it and I got like three tiny crystals. And before that bath, when I would like step on my foot, it would like hurt. Like there was something that the skin was hitting against that would make it sore. After the bath, the crystals came out. And then I would step on my foot and there was no pain. It was like no obstacle there. There was none of this going on when I pressed on it.

Aajonus

Is that right here?

Audience

Yeah.

Aajonus

Yeah, that's the bursa. Bursa is a little sac that creates fluid to lubricate the joints. And bursitis is very, very painful. I had it. And it's like every time I'd step on it, I'd be in excruciating pain. I wouldn't be able to move for five, ten minutes. And it's a crystal. They're crystals. They stab.

Audience

And they came out. That's what I'm telling you. They came out. I was like, wow.

Aajonus

That's the whole point. You have plastic crystals and then you're stabbing your bursa.

Audience

Wow. So are there anywhere else except for the bursa?

Aajonus

No, they can be everywhere. But the most painful is in the joints and in the bursa.

Audience

So how do you take that from getting confused with gout? That's a similar thing.

Aajonus

It's part of gout.

Audience

Huh?

Aajonus

It's part of gout.

Audience

Which is better, to get bottled water without fluoride or with fluoride and glass like... The best would be the [unintelligible] has no fluoride, it's in plastic.

Aajonus

I would go for the natural fluoride before I would go for plastic because you have the phthalates leak into it, BPAs. If you're eating properly and not drinking much water, you're not going to absorb that fluoride.

Audience

How about reverse osmosis?

Aajonus

Reverse osmosis destroys all bacteria so it works to remove the contamination, but not necessarily industrial chemicals. So not all industrial chemicals take out every mineral.

Audience

What's the question? Whether it's better to drink bottled water or not.

Aajonus

He wanted to know if it's better to have a water that has no fluoride in it even though it's organic, mineral fluoride, industrial fluoride, like Gerolsteiner or like almost all of your water has natural fluoride in it, trace amounts. I mean less than a trace. It's hardly able to detect it, but they can detect it depending upon if you're using a particular kind of measuring oscilloscope.

There's a water, like a glacier, melting with ice and snow, has no fluoride in it, this particular brand, but they bottled it in plastic. He asked me is it preferable to have plastic bottled water or the natural with a small amount of fluoride. I said the natural with a small amount of fluoride, rather than having the PBsA and the phthalates leaching through your water. If you're not drinking much water anyway, you're not drinking much water.

Audience

Do you think Gerolsteiner is okay? Because I've seen them label the water differently. Sometimes they say naturally sparkling water and sometimes they say sparkling natural water, implying that the carbonation is added.

Aajonus

Well, all the carbonation is always added. All of them are added. In a well, you've got the water table and you've got the gas table. The water and the gas are never together. They inject them at the same time. Is it the natural gas? Then it's naturally carbonated. If it isn't, then you've got Coca-Cola and all those beverage companies and Calistoga water, which uses a chemically produced carbon dioxide. It's not a naturally produced carbon dioxide from the Earth.

Audience

She's saying it's changed. Is it okay to change over it?

Aajonus

Theirs is always natural. They've got more gas in their well than any other on the planet, but they sell the gas to Perrier. Perrier has lost almost all of its gas in its wells. However, they've changed the labels because somebody doesn't know what they're talking about in the labeling department.

Audience

[unintelligible]

Aajonus

Okay, there's Ra Healthy Foods. Maryland is the head of that one. And then there's Gary Ferry, which is udderlyla.com. U-D-D-E-R-L-Y-L-A-C-O-M. Udderly LA.

Audience

Is that local?

Aajonus

That's a local. They deliver it to 76 at Pacific Avenue on Lincoln every Saturday. But you have to get there by 9 o'clock. You have to go between 7 and 9 in the morning. They do not wait more than 10 minutes. If you're not there by 9, 10, that truck's gone with your foods. You have to order it by Sunday morning at 8 o'clock. If you order it by Monday morning, you have to pay a $20 surcharge. The first week I ordered it on Monday morning was the first time I realized that they were still getting Amos' product. So I paid the $20 for it. Order by 8 o'clock on Sunday morning. You get delivered on Saturday. Eli requires 9 days.

Audience

Would you rather prefer Amos over Eli?

Aajonus

I like it in the summertime. I like Amos' because it's creamier. Everything's got a lot more fat in it. His milk's creamier. If I drink Elis stuff in late spring and summer and fall, or early fall, I drink another gallon. With Amos' I drink four and a half gallons a week.

Audience

Do you drink more or less with the cream?

Aajonus

I drink less with more cream.

Audience

Which is better?

Aajonus

Well, the reason is I was starving for the cream.

Audience

What does that mean?

Aajonus

I was starving for the cream.

Audience

Well, you could buy the extra cream.

Aajonus

There's a taste difference.

Audience

Autograph?

Aajonus

Oh, yes, certainly.

Audience

Regarding the song, let me just say, I need to take this thing to a composer in Hollywood and see if she'll get in touch with us and really make a song out of it. Now, we have a potential potluck a month from today, a couple of us here earlier today, we're going to have it in their house, so we'll get their address and send out an email and all that stuff. But why don't we see if we can get this song in and figure it out. So when we get together next time, we'll be all organized, we'll have all the music and the whole deal for November 18th. When is the next pop-up for the next month? November 18th.

Aajonus

November 18th. It's Sunday. We'll have a potluck in the marina down here.

Audience

So, make sure I have everybody's email address and I'll get you the song information ahead of time so we're kind of semi-rehearsed.

Aajonus

Well, I don't know. I just want somebody who can produce the music for us.

Audience

Well, I know a Hollywood composer, so I'll get her in touch with you.

Aajonus

Okay, great. Okay.

Audience

[unintelligible]

Aajonus

I don't remember the other one. The guy is kind of flaky, sends out his emails.

Audience

So it has nothing to do with co-op or anything. It's a private food club.

Aajonus

Like hers is a private food club. I don't even know hers is a private food club. And suddenly the guy has another.

Audience

Yeah, so... No place for me.

Aajonus

Pardon?

Audience

No place for me.

Aajonus

You're meeting both of them. No, no, no. Ours are everywhere. Absolutely everywhere. You've got meats, you've got lamb, you've got goats, you've got camel milk, you've got lamb chops, you've got lamb cubes, you've got bone, bone marrow. She gets the buffalo and Amos has his own cow with bone marrow.

Audience

I believe that Amos will take any membership as long as you have a valid credit card.

Aajonus

But that's really Merrick, that UdderlyLA, it's not Amos. He clears the credit card. You don't even get charged until three days after your delivery.

Audience

Mm-hmm.

Aajonus

Because they don't want you to be charged back. They don't want to worry about you. He's going to receive something... They don't charge your card until after you have the food and everything is clear.

Audience

That's what I said. They won't even debit it until you pick it up.

Aajonus

So it should be two or three days later.

Audience

Right.

Aajonus

But you've ordered it a week ago.

Audience

Do you have any idea why Amos is [unintelligible]?

Aajonus

His grass is older, he's more [unintelligible], his grass is really high. King's isn't that high, it isn't the same grass, different grass.

Audience

They live in the same vicinity, don't they?

Aajonus

Ten miles apart.

Audience

Ten miles isn't much distance.

Aajonus

Doesn't [unintelligible] where grass is growing.

Audience

Can't he change his grass?

Aajonus

Pardon?

Audience

I should find out what Amos has got.

Aajonus

I mean, I've seen him when I was there. I mean, the cows that go into the fields when they release it, you can't even see the cows. He's got such a high grass.

Audience

Wow.

Aajonus

It's phenomenal.

Audience

He's got a very high grass.

Aajonus

Pardon? Whatever it is, I didn't ask.

Audience

Do you know if they feed any grains to their cattle? Because everybody I've talked to that has cattle says they feed them a little grain.

Aajonus

[unintelligible]

Audience

But I mean, is it okay that they're eating the grain?

Aajonus

Cows eat grain all the time. If they're out in the wild, like my cows, they graze on the jungle. And let me tell you, as soon as that seed ripens and hits them, they're sucking the seed off of the dirt. And they're put into a pasture that's not going to seed. They don't get any seed. But in the wild, seeds are being produced at all times in different plants, different grasses. Because they're not cropped. And if they're eating everything and getting no grains, that's not right. So they should get some grains.

Most of them don't get two cups a day. I feed my cows two cups a day of rice. That rice, they love that rice. I don't know what it is. But I had a bull who attacked me and knocked me 20 feet. And if I had gotten a horn, I would have been dead. I got up and slugged him so hard, my horse didn't want to, and I slugged him too. And I mean, when you hit them in the jaw, their head isn't, even though they've got these big necks, they don't expect that. And it knocks them over.

But when I started feeding them, I personally, and not just my workers, my helpers, I fed them personally. And I also denied one of my cows because he butted me. So I denied him the rice. They learn very quickly. Very quickly. They love that rice.

Audience

Do you cook the rice before you give it to them, or do you give it to them raw?

Aajonus

I give it to them raw, of course.

Audience

Raw? They can digest it.

Aajonus

Oh, absolutely.

Audience

You never hear of an animal that, on its own, that eats, cooks its food before it's given to them. [unintelligible] They have an extra stomach, yeah.

Aajonus

They have two to four stomachs. They have ten and a half times more digestive tract. They have 60,000 times more enzymes to digest the cellulose molecule.

Audience

What do you think of quinoa.

Aajonus

The what?

Audience

Quinoa. Quinoa.

Aajonus

Quinoa?

Audience

Quinoa.

Aajonus

Oh, I've never eaten it.

Audience

Quinoa is a grain, and they use it for wheat.

Aajonus

I'm not for grains.

Audience

It's like part protein.

Aajonus

Well, everything's part protein, but how much. Grains are like 8%, 15% of it's like, well, soybeans are like 18-20%, 22%. And that's why they use soybeans to get the protein from it. It's a very toxic protein once you've cured it in kerosene for 72 hours.

Audience

What about breeding?

Aajonus

Pardon?

Audience

What about breeding soybeans? Like eating them like meat?

Aajonus

Still, you can't digest them. Even if you ferment them, you're not going to digest them. You have to be a cow or a goat or a sheep. If you feed them raw, dry soybeans, even a cow or a goat, maybe a camel will be able to digest them. And an elephant, but not the other animals. You have to soak them. That's why Amos soaks his grains in milk before he gives them to his pigs and other animals. Like chicken, he germinates those grains in the milk.

Audience

And that's what he's eating during the year, but not in the winter?

Aajonus

Yeah, he feeds them to them in the winter. He wants more protein. He gives them, he adds some fish meal. And the fish meal is entirely processed. You put gasoline and kerosene and break it down, plus the arsenic in it.

Audience

How long does steak tartare meat without being refrigerated?

Aajonus

Pardon?

Audience

We've had all this stuff out here on the counter, all this meat. How long can they be out of the cold?

Aajonus

Until they become beef jerky.

Audience

And you can still eat them?

Aajonus

Yeah. I wouldn't eat them as beef jerky because there's no enzymes unless you're going to eat them with pineapple or... Honey.

Audience

Yeah.

Aajonus

I don't eat beef jerky. I would if I had nothing else to eat.

Audience

Emergency food.

Aajonus

Yeah. It's like the Eskimos. You make a pemmican every year, and they make a 90-pound block. If they don't eat it by springtime, they bury it. Because they know there's no enzymes in it. So it's hard to digest, it doesn't give you as much energy. It's a survival food.

Audience

Better if you eat it with honey?

Aajonus

Pardon?

Audience

Better if you eat it with honey?

Aajonus

Yeah, then you have some enzymes. You'll digest maybe two-thirds of it. If you don't have honey with it, you're going to digest 5%, 10%.

Audience

Really?

Aajonus

Well, they eat blueberries with it, and that has that sugar in it. So it starts breaking down the meat as they're dehydrating the block. So it pre-digests it because there's sugars and certain enzymes in the blueberry.

Audience

But isn't it kind of high meat, though, the pemmican? Sitting all that time?

Aajonus

To an extent, when they dehydrate it, it's still dehydrated. There's no active enzymes.

Audience

But it won't have digested like meat?

Aajonus

Why do you think they don't eat it? Why do you think they'll bury it if they didn't have to eat it? If you gotta do that, eat a little piece of pineapple or some honey with it.

Audience

Yeah. [unintelligible]

Aajonus

Sometimes there are certain proteins that mix some amino acids in the mix, because they won't mix with honey. And you do that. I had several patients that have to have it that way. And since they start eating some pineapple or honey, one of the others, they don't know which one they do better with. Then they get what they need in the meat as well as digest it almost instantly. But if you dry it in the jerky, you're not going to digest it.

Audience

I don't dry it that way.

Aajonus

You know that deer? I packed it in different quart jars. And I kept some up until 2010. And I added olive oil, and it was perfect.

Audience

Wow. Starting from when?

Aajonus

December 1999.

Audience

Ten years? Ten years. And it didn't break the glass.

Aajonus

Pardon?

Audience

There was no gas coming out of it?

Aajonus

No, the olive oil didn't allow anything to grow. It didn't allow oxygen to move in the meat.

Audience

It didn't become high meat?

Aajonus

Just like frozen in time.

Audience

Wow.

Aajonus

It tasted more acidic and a lot like olive oil. I put olive oil, I put about six ounces by volume of olive oil at first. Then I put slices of deer that were about two inches by an inch. I basted them first with the olive oil, then put them inside. And as the olive oil kind of stuck to them, the olive oil raised and coated and kept every space so no oxygen, no air could stay in there. And then I stuffed more meat up there, and I poured more olive oil in until I got just about an eighth of an inch of olive oil above the meat. And then tapped it.

Audience

And kept it room temperature?

Aajonus

I kept it in a low cupboard where it was cooler, not in a high cupboard. So it was a low cupboard, but always a room temperature.

Audience

Wow. You were filling much olive oil in half a cup?

Aajonus

Were you listening to what I said? It's on your tape.

Audience

Does it matter if the chunks are bigger? Like I've got some I put away two years ago, but there were huge chunks instead of slicing the way you just said.

Aajonus

I don't know, I've not tried with huge chunks.

Audience

Oh, okay. Well, I'll find out when I open it.

Aajonus

How old?

Audience

Two years.

Aajonus

Oh, good.

Audience

Well, when you first wrote that news, it was olive oil, yeah. But I put it in the fridge, but that wouldn't matter, would it?

Aajonus

No. Well, the olive oil solidifies.

Audience

Oh, really?

Aajonus

Yeah. Olive oil solidifies below, what is it, 72 degrees?

Audience

Oh, so maybe it's been ruined then.

Aajonus

No.

Audience

Well, I'll find out. I'll have to break into it sometime.

Aajonus

I'd like to know.

Audience

Huh?

Aajonus

I'd like to know.

Audience

Yeah, okay. [unintelligible]

Aajonus

Well, just get it as soon as they butcher it, so they don't freeze it. It doesn't make any difference. When I fed animals the frozen meat, they all got skin disorders. The animals that eat the same meat unfrozen got no skin disorders. So you lose 80% of your nutrients when you freeze anything.

Audience

Well, it's not quite frozen.

Aajonus

If it's below freezing temperature and it's been there for a week, it's frozen.

Audience

No, I've felt it.

Aajonus

Just find out when they butcher it.

Audience

When it's frozen ground meat, they call it chilled.

Aajonus

Fresh butchered. Yes.

Audience

Well, if it's frozen, it would be hard, wouldn't it? The vendor, this is widely heard, and I've tried the vendor, Duncan from New Zealand. Duncan refers me back to Broadleaf, and Duncan, can you get a [unintelligible]?

Aajonus

Well, you have to just go online and search for butchers, and we'll butcher people's deer. A lot of people won't use all of it. They'll sell some of it if they can. And you just have that butcher call you when you have something fresh and ship it to you fresh.

When he shot the deer, we were out in the backyard, and there was some deer out there. He shot it through the lung. And that deer, like a cat, jumped straight up and went right back and grazed it. The deer didn't even know what happened. She went grazing off, and I said, you shot that deer. So I saw the hair come off, and the deer jumped. He didn't think he hit it. And I said, well, we have to follow the tracks where the deer went. And we were like 100 feet, and it fell over. And I butchered it in three hours. Three hours wasn't bad, because we had to skin it.

Audience

The brains?

Aajonus

Yeah.

Audience

Chip around the skull?

Aajonus

Chip that skull open.

Audience

Where was the deer? What area?

Aajonus

Nevada City.

Audience

Nevada City. And then cutting all the meat and all of that?

Aajonus

No, it was three hours altogether. Three hours total. But it was hard work, and it was constant. And I was working. I had to get it done. I had to get on that. I had to get on the road.

Audience

What did you do?

Aajonus

Nobody else knew how to butcher. So I had to do it all.

Audience

Can you go back to that area again? Is it still good with deer?

Aajonus

I don't know.

Audience

It was?

Aajonus

That was 12 years ago.

Audience

It's no more popular now.

Aajonus

Pardon?

Audience

It's no more popular now than it was.

Aajonus

Yeah.

Audience

Well, what do you say we thank Aajonus again? [applause]

Aajonus

Yeah. You know, you can download that song. I found like 17 different versions. Some wouldn't let me download the video. And then I had to cut the MP3 off of the video. It was a process to get the tunes into just the MP3. But you can get that. Just listen to it. And it's going to be a version of it.

Audience

So we have to go.

Aajonus

Yeah.

Audience

How long are you going to be here for?

Aajonus

Pardon? I'm here until November 3rd.

Audience

November?

Aajonus

Probably November.

Audience

November 3rd.

Aajonus

November 1st will be the last appointment. I do have just a few days where I'm not looking in there. Because I only have two days here and one day there. So you're on the 9th. That's right before I go off to Chicago.

Audience

So after November 3rd, when's the next time you're back for appointments?

Aajonus

It'll be January 3rd.

Audience

And then for how long? A few weeks? A month?

Aajonus

I'll be back probably until April.

Audience

Oh, okay. Do you have lots of appointments? Do you have any free? Lots of free? Or just a few free until November 3rd? Or November 1st?

Aajonus

I have probably about 20 of them.

Audience

Oh, you do? 20? Okay. Okay.

Aajonus

Call me. 3105890589.

Audience

Okay.

Aajonus

That's that old number I had. I got it back.

Audience

You hit me first. And you hit me second. But you drew first.

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