Q&A — July 20, 2008 (San Clemente, CA)

Okay, are we all present?

Okay. I’m just going to talk a little bit about vinegar: vinegar is a solvent; it does help remove toxic substances – even warts, growths and moles. It’ll lighten certain tissue, like liver spots when you apply it to the skin. However, I’ve found in my experiments that if you do it too much it causes tumors.

So, you have to be careful.

Internally or externally doing it too much – it causes tumors.

I think what it does is the body uses it to dissolve toxic tissue – hardened tissue. And then, if it keeps getting put in that same area it dissolves the healthy tissue because it is a chemical reaction. It isn’t like the bacteria, and the parasites and the fungus which know better than to eat things that are healthy and well. But, the vinegar – it’s a chemical.

Yep.

Either way – if you put it too much, too often.

Probably, if you’ve got a wart or a mole that you want to get rid of, once every 36 hours is okay. Any more than that can be too much.

Internally: it depends upon the size that you are. And most people: a teaspoon and a half a day is plenty.

Yeah.

No.

Marinated lemon is fine because lemon juice causes bacterial growth; it allows bacterial fermentation. Lime juice does just the opposite: it inhibits bacterial and parasitical infestation, or cleansing.

Well, you’re diluting it by a tremendous amount. And you’ve got milk in there; you’ve got salt –you’ve got other things to neutralize. And also all the chemicals in the water itself.

Yeah. Well, with your weight you can probably get away with a tbsp. a day.

Yeah, but that’s not released very much because it’s bound by the coconut cream and the clay.

Yeah.

Uh-huh. Yeah, right.

Yeah, you’re talking probably about a very small amount. Do you have a question?

There’s nothing that will work except for adrenal and red meat.

But, unless they can’t get out of bed then they don’t have adrenal fatigue. If they have adrenal fatigue they can’t get out of bed.

Doesn’t make any difference – you have to be symptomatic. If I gave you a million dollars and you spent a million dollars a day would you be deficient? You would probably say: “Yes, I want more clothes, or more houses.” Or something.

But, you really wouldn’t be poor just because you use it all.

Red meat.

And liver and milk and honey together… eating adrenals.

It’s all of the above – he needs a balanced diet. He can’t just be a lifeguard in the sun – he needs to eat.

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Well, if you’re using the chocolate, that can overstimulate the system depending upon the individual because you’ve got theobromine, caffeine and theophylline in chocolate – the raw cocoa bean. So, it may make you hyper. I can only have it maybe once a month. Other people may be able to have it more often. I’m limited to about once a month.

No, I’m talking about the raw cocoa bean.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, I eat it as ice-cream so I don’t have a problem with it.

Yeah, if it works for you – fine. If you were to have a pound every week you might have a problem.

Okay, do you have a question?

Well, bloating and gas is an indication that you’re dumping a lot of toxins into the digestive tract and those toxins are messing with your digestive juices and bacteria – and that causes a gaseous reaction. So, eating a little bit of cheese every hour helps neutralize some of that toxicity – so you don’t have so much, but you’ll obviously have a little bit.

Yeah, but you can do it every hour – every 30 minutes if you’re having tremendous gas because you need to absorb it, so it doesn’t mix with your juices. Because it will neutralize your digestive juices and cause a toxic reaction when the toxins mix with the digestive juices and causes the bloating, the swelling and the gas.

Don’t need to. Do you have any kind of constipation or diarrhea?

Then don’t worry about it.

You get constipation you can add some coconut cream or butter. If you don’t have a problem there then just have cheese. It’s much more effective if you just have cheese anyway.

Yeah, ten minutes before and also just every hour, or every 30 minutes; just make sure you have some going through all the time to absorb those toxins. Okay, Cynthia – do you have a question?

Okay. Joseph?

Yeah, but you’re not moving things through – you’re not forcing movement.

It’s okay, but it’ll work better if you have movement.

Yes, it is.

Well, you’ve just got to be a turtle – move in slow motion.

Well, as long as there’s good oxygen – it’s helpful to be in a place where there’s good oxygen.

There you go.

Well, the oxygen off the ocean usually expels between about one-thirty to five-thirty in the morning. Once the sun hits then it stops. And all day long it’ll absorb carbon monoxide, then at night it discharges the oxygen that it makes.

Yeah, it’s better to do it at night. You can walk around your yard – you know, lots of green oxygen air – it’s green that makes oxygen. Do you have a question?

It’s crystals.

Yeah.

Yep. Uric acid build-ups; could be lactic acid build-ups – any of that. Whey and vinegar help get rid of it. And what you could do is mix about four tbsp. coconut cream with about one and a half tsp. vinegar. Mix that together, let it sit for about an hour and then rub it in to your foot.

Yeah, since I’ve been experimenting with it and creating hardened tumors, I’ve found that too much of it can cause heavy dryness and dead cells. It damages the area.

Just drink that.

Hmm-mm. That’s fine.

Mainly that’s it. There’s the belief that whey is high in protein and helps bodybuilding, and that’s a lot of nonsense.

It can. Lime juice is a little bit better for that. Well, kills it is what it does.

It kills the antibiotic fungus. Do you have another question?

Yeah, you probably could – they’ll just think it’s hard-boiled. That’s what they do. They ask you: “Are these hard-boiled?” And I say: “As hard as I want it.”

That’s because eggs digest in about 27 minutes completely and it takes very little effort of the intestinal tract to digest that protein and fat – the proteins in the egg white and the egg yolk is all the fat.

No, it has to be for each person.

Well, I do it; I charge $50 per letter. It’s only good for three months.

They ask you to renew it every three months; when I take it in over three months they won’t receive them.

Yeah.

Yeah, you just email me.

I’m a PhD nutrition, so –

Yeah.

Absolutely.

Right, yeah.

Yeah.

Lymph nodes and glands.

It’s from vegetable oils.

Vegetable oils in the human body harden.

Yeah. It takes a herbivore who has a body temperature of 101 – 105 degrees; ours is 98.6 and lower, so it causes crystallizations of the fats.

Well, olive oil is not a vegetable oil – it’s a fruit oil.

Yeah, it needs to cold. It’s still quite a solvent though.

In the book look under lymphatic congestion – those hot baths. And have the pineapple with the coconut cream, a little bit of dairy cream, and lemon juice and honey.

Well, it says in the books quite well. But, a sentence got left in both books: you need the room to be about 80 degrees. If the room is under 80 degrees the cold coconut meat holds on to both the water and the oil soluble fats and it won’t release them. So, you get maybe quarter to half a cup of coconut cream. If your room is 80 degrees, from that one coconut, you can get a cup or more. So, that’s the big thing to do. How it got left out of the book, I don’t know.

Yeah, well, I said that. But still, if the room is cold and the machinery gets cold it’s not going to juice as much.

Yes, except in this kind of weather you don’t have to – it’s usually hot enough.

Well, you can but if you spend an hour with the juicer in a hot room it’s going to be that temperature. And as you start juicing it’s going to be warm pretty quickly.

You mean in the machinery?

No, what you do is – like I say in the book - you take a glass jar, put some of the coconut water in and let it absorb some of that while it gets warm. It’s in a bowl of hot water, so it gets warm that way. But, if the machinery is cold it’s going to get cold pretty quickly. So, it’s better to have the room 80 degrees. Do you have another question?

Well, all they have to do is eat green cabbage juice to remedy that. Usually, when a woman has a lot of toxicity stored in the ovaries or uterus, heavy metals destroy the U and K, which allows the blood to clot. So, if you eat the cabbage juice, it offsets that. So, when your period is coming up - five days before - you have a cup of the green cabbage juice. Not red cabbage – red cabbage will cause bleeding.

But, the green cabbage will stop bleeding. So, have it like every third day. Five days before the period and then every third day until the period is over.

Yes.

… your ovaries.

Destroys the U and K, right, which allows blood clotting. There was a famous Swiss actress who was bleeding from her uterus; she had ovarian cancer – uterine cancer. And she had come to Los Angeles because she had been to Europe – she had been to everywhere and the Universities in Europe – even in Paris – all around – in Switzerland and Sweden – everywhere – nobody could remedy it and she had been around the lot in these places. And they told her to go to UCLA and USC in Los Angeles because they usually kept way ahead of every other university.

So, she came here and they did the same stuff: cauterizing, which is burning the tissue and melting it together. That didn’t work. Grafting: nothing worked. And she went into Erewhon health food store and she watched this fellow get everything. He got the milk; he got meat, the cheese, the cream. And you know he’s vibrantly healthy. So she says: “Is that all for you?” And he says: “Yeah, this is for two days.” And she says: “That’s phenomenal.” And she told him her problem.

And he said: “Well, give this guy a call – give Aajonus a call and he can probably help you.” So, she gave me a call probably somewhere around eight-thirty – nine o’clock in the evening and I said: “Well, I don’t help people who are vegetarian because it just doesn’t work – it’s a lot on me and it’s a lot on you and it’s just difficult to work with a vegetarian. But, if you’re just wanting to stop the bleeding that’s easy: just have a cup of green cabbage juice once a day and it’ll stop.” And she said: “If it was that easy everybody would know it!” Slammed the phone down.

So, the next morning at nine-thirty in the morning I get a call – it worked. Just like that – overnight. She had it overnight: a cup of green cabbage juice and it stopped the bleeding. So, her boyfriend came with her, who was a famous Italian photographer, and he made sure that she kept on the food and everything. She went off her vegetarian diet – mostly – she did a little bit of meat – like half a cup of meat a day, but lots of dairy.

She got strong; she got healthy; she had a great time. And then three months later she’s got a wave of conscience and said: “I can’t do this; I can’t torture animals for their dairy; I can’t make slaves of them.” So, she died a month later.

So, she got what she wanted – it was a martyr – her vegetarianism.

They’re lacking vitamin K and vitamin U. When you’re having milk you’re having a lot of rich minerals. When you’ve pasteurized dairy you’ve cauterized 50% of the calcium, so it’s not going to absorb poisons.

So, when you’re having the dairy - especially when you’re nursing or pregnant - the body wants to pull it out of there because it doesn’t want to harm the baby. So, it can cause it, but you just have the

cabbage juice. You’re welcome.

Uh-huh.

Well, the world is overpopulated with vegetation; so, you’ve got elephants that will eat whole trees; they’ll eat the bark; they’ll eat the whole frickin’ tree. They can eat their whole weight in 24 hours. They’ll eat massive branches that are this thick. And everything gives its life; one life gives another life and that’s the way it is. So, herbivore animals eat vegetation. Carnivorous animals like us need to eat those animals, so they don’t overpopulate. So, it’s a balance. What happened when the dinosaur was around – supposedly? It ate all the vegetation – it starved to death.

Well, you came into the animal body. You’re an animal – period. That’s part of this spiritual journey here. If you don’t accept it you’re going to die or have disease. And if that’s your journey, hey, have it. I wish you all the disease you want – all the suffering you want. If that’s your view point.

Yeah. So, I have no problem with eating an animal. I mean, cats and dogs, even apes, will kill an animal about once every 28 days.

Yes, we are.

That’s it, yeah. And it’s a good thing – if it weren’t we wouldn’t be healthy doing it. And as far as the idea that growing the grains for us and saving all this land instead of the animals is an absurdity. That’s what they eat – they eat vegetation. They eat some grain – mainly grain is for birds. So, the whole idea that they’re saving the planet by being vegetarian is just an absurdity. Because the herbivore can get out there and eat every day all day long and it’s satisfied. If we eat a vegetarian diet, most bodies are not satisfied; it causes all types of imbalances – anxiety, depression… all types of ill symptoms – disease.

The methane.

From the fecal matter. And the rain washes it down and it’s eaten by bacteria. It’s when the big corporations take the urea from the fecal matter and not compost it – it gets in the wells. And then it creates a lot of acidic compounds that cause methane gas and that can be harmful.

But, we shouldn’t be having those intense kinds of farms; everything should be grazed. We get most of our meat from Amos Miller – an Amish farmer. And I have him process everything. So, he takes guts of the animals that he slaughters and butchers and lays it out on this grill-work of wood and the flies come and lay their larvae and the chickens eat all these maggots.

And these chickens: I was there last year this week and spent the whole day on the farm – now, when I grew up on my grandparent’s farm every so many summers the chickens pecked you, the ducked pecked you – they never got enough protein. These chickens and ducks will follow you around and rub you like a cat. These are chickens; they are so healthy and so happy.

No soy, nothing – it’s all meat byproducts – meat discards.

Yeah, you just have to make sure that James will order them.

Eat the maggots.

Guts.

Yeah, the intestines, the liver – anything that he couldn’t sell.

And even the carcasses with a little bit of meat on the bones – the chickens go and eat that off of there, as well as the flies are laying they’re maggots and eating that too. Incredible – to see chickens happy, not pecking, and rubbing against you like a cat. I was absolutely just so happy.

Oh, yeah. It is against the law if he were to be selling it commercially. But see, I have a lease agreement with him so we own the flock. So, he just handles them for us. So, it takes it out of the commercial realm – just like we do with the dairy.

And they tried to take him to court several times for not having a permit. And I wrote the legal brief for him and his father because they both got ticketed and cited and they were both going into court on the same day. So, I did a 19-page document for the father and a 67-page document that had all the details instead of me repeating it for Jacob Miller. So, it says on there: “This is non-commercial; this is private ownership; there is no commercial sales here.” The law states and says that FDA and all that only has jurisdiction over commercial enterprises. So, the judge just threw it out – we won every case in the last six years.

Now, Sally Fallon: she has a Herd Share program and the Herd Share program doesn’t stand up in some states because it has no legal precedent. And I’ve tried to get her to use the lease program for at least three and a half or four years. All of a sudden I hear about four months ago she’s using the lease program – all the problems are gone.

Well, not because there was a precedent. Well, in leases everybody can lease everything. If they let one lease agreement fall it puts all lease agreements in jeopardy. So, they couldn’t do it; they had to throw it out. So, they don’t need permits.

And in the documentation I sent the agreement which means: we want the bacteria; we want parasites; we want all these so-called undesirable things (according to Health Department regulations); we want what they don’t want, so we’re completely divorced from their regulations – we have nothing to do with

it. They really have to prove there’s a contagion caused from the raw milk or the chicken or whatever. And it’s impossible to do – I would cut him down in a court of law.

It’s because nobody challenges them. I challenge them.

I am. Even Sally Fallon talks about the bad bacteria and to freeze your meat or lightly cook it.

So, she has a total belief in that. Yet, these are people who’ve never done the experiments – they just believe it. And I’ve been eating raw meat with never a problem since 1976.

Yeah. The law is for commercial. I’ve proved that we were not commercial venture; they have no jurisdiction.

They would have to prove that somebody who got salmonella could transfer it by air or touch – impossible.

Well, my partner there went bankrupt; his son embezzled all of the money out of the company, so left him bankrupt. He did it to his father and his sister.

No clinic in Thailand, right now.

No, his son was not a good person.

I’ll just wait until somebody else comes around and offers money again. And I’ll either do it in Thailand or in Southern Mexico.

You don’t know that.

He said I may not live that long.

There you go.

Do you have a question?

Not a good idea. What it does is it causes a lot of cellulose fibre and neutralizes the acidic bacteria and digestive juices that are there to digest the meats and the dairy. So, it neutralizes it. So, you lose digestibility.

The only thing I suggest blended is cucumber because of all the collagen precursors that are in the pulp of the cucumber. But, that’s not a vegetable – it’s a bland fruit. You can get that collagen precursors from any kind of fruit, especially melons, papaya – any of those will create a lot of collagen precursors.

However, it turns the system alkaline, so it does damage digestibility. So, having the cucumber because it’s an alkaline but not highly over alkalinized and you’re having only that as the pulp and a small amount of it. For some people it’s as high as 50% of the juice, but the juice is a very small part of the diet. As long as you’re not drinking it excessively.

No, you don’t. That’s all nonsense; that’s a theory that has no evidence in reality. That’s a lot of nonsense propagated by Walker, Bragg and all those people. But, yet, Bragg would use his vinegar all the time – every day. And what happened to his spinal cord? It deteriorated because it ate up the calcium; it demineralized the calcium causing the spine to deteriorate and harden. So, in the last years that I saw him he had to be carried up to the stage – he had to be walked up to the stage – up to the podium.

Yeah.

It’s a story. I don’t know. Nobody dies from surfing.

I mean if they get a huge wave and the board cracks his head open. From what I understand it was no severe accident. He broke his back. Breaking your back means you’ve got toxicity in your spine and you’ve got a weak back.

Yep. So, he believed in alkalinizing; lots of juices, but then he had all this vinegar which is acidic. So, everybody has their little concept about what is right and what is wrong. But, just remember: you’ve got 2300 varieties of bacteria in the mouth and they’re all acid. You have one enzyme in the mouth that is alkaline and that is hyaline – same thing as a horse has – and that’s the only alkalizing enzyme we have. So, everything is acidic. So, that says our body should be eating acid foods

then. Yes?

Absolutely.

Yeah, it is better, but still you’re alkalizing the system by having too much fruit.

It’s better that way, but it doesn’t stop the diabetic symptoms. I did it for six years and I was going into insulin shock constantly.

Well, a vegetarian type diet – high alkaline. Lots of fruit – like, 60-80% of my diet was fruit.

I say in the book: no fruit juice.

Vegetable juice, yes.

No, fruit.

Yeah, but it depends; celery doesn’t have enough sugar to digest itself, so it’s a minus. Carrot and beets -those are the only ones that are high in sugars... except for potatoes – those kinds of things.

Yeah, but you’re having it with coconut cream and dairy cream too.

Right, slowing absorption down. And that’s just to help pull bile out of the body.

You’re welcome.

Absolutely.

Yep. It can over-alkalinize, yes.

Well, it’ll cause gas. It’ll cause the neutralization of the acidic bacteria and digestive juices that digest animal foods.

It will completely alter it so badly. That’s why usually after seven years of being on a fruitarian diet you hit the wall – so protein and fat deficient.

Correct because the fruit will neutralize it – especially fruit juice.

Vegetable juice will also cause it, if you have too much.

It depends upon the person.

If they drink four ounces of juice and they do well and they drink 8 ounces and they don’t do well, four ounces is appropriate and eight’s too much.

It depends upon the person.

You start having a lot of gas and start getting weak. The food starts passing out the feces whole – whole pieces of meat – pink – undigested. You get many effects from it.

Okay – temporarily.

And it usually takes seven years before a person hits the wall hard. But, most people, because they’re cooked vegetarians, will hit the wall in a year, a year and a half. David Wolf, back seven years ago when he started – I said: “Well, we’ll see how you do at the seven year mark.” So, what happened last year? Some people that work with him said that he’s starting to eat the raw dairy, but not telling people – they see him eating it.

Fruitarianism – die-hard fruitarian.

That will assist the cooked food.

Yeah. Because when you eat a lot of cooked foods you get overly acidic.

So, enough will counter-balance it. But, you’re still going to demineralize.

Your bones are going to get thin and brittle – all kinds of side-effects: severe anorexia, severe bulimia because you can’t get satisfied – you can’t eat enough protein and fats on that kind of a diet.

It’s not a good idea. What I do when I go to a place like that and I’m going to stay for a week or two, I’ll buy a small centrifugal juicer and I’ll juice every day. It takes maybe 30 minutes to juice what I’m going to juice for that day. Sometimes I’ll make it for two days if the juice is fairly good.

Yeah, just a cheap juicer.

I take eight to 16 ounces a day.

And when I start having diarrhea, I cut it down.

Well, if you have natural celery it is all dark green and bitter. Celery is naturally a bitter vegetable. They breed it to get some of that oxalic acid. So, that’s what causes it to go very bitter like that.

Yeah, cleaning you out. Then you need to eat an egg or cheese with it, before you eat it.

No, if you’re having diarrhea you do not want cream – you have cheese.

Well, diarrhea is always detoxing, but you can detox too much. Because you can eat a lot of cheese and you’ll still detox a lot, but it’s just the cheese that will absorb the toxins, so they don’t irritate the intestines.

And you don’t need to have the diarrhea; diarrhea is when something is so toxic that it enters the intestinal walls and discharges into that intestinal environment, that the body uses a lot of fluid to rush it out so it doesn’t cause damage to the intestinal tract – to the flora and the digestive juices and the intestinal walls.

Before.

Yeah.

Yeah. For however long amount of cheese it takes.

10 minutes.

10 minutes is all you need. And if you’re having the diarrhea, you start off with a tablespoon. If it doesn’t work you add one and a half tbsp., two tbsp. every hour.

Yes.

For somebody your size: a quart.

Yeah, about a quart a day. But, remember: sip – always sip – don’t guzzle. And when you guzzle the H20 rushes to the kidneys, into the bladder, so you don’t get to hydrate the body – you don’t get to use that water. And it’s all good ionically-bound, so you need to sip it. Like you see me sipping the milk? I sip everything.

Equal amounts of tomato and cucumber puree with some coconut cream, a little bit of lemon juice, dairy cream and a little vinegar.

It’s pretty tasty, yeah.

Yeah, but you can’t guzzle it. A lot of my athletes will guzzle it.

Well, if they have water they’re not going to utilize it – most of it is going to rush to the kidneys. And if they’re gulping, even the good stuff, they’re not going to absorb it. A little at a time. Do you have a question?

Yeah?

You have to eat one or two moisturizing formulas a day.

Yes.

In the Recipe book.

Page 145 of 146 of the Recipe book.

Tastes like a lemon meringue drink.

Uh-huh.

Well, anytime you have trouble in an area it’s because you have too much toxicity in that area. So, if it’s the lungs, you’ve got a lot of contaminants that you have breathed into the body – whether it’s smoke or chemicals in a laboratory – whatever. Those store in the lung tissue. So you have to eat the diet that will help draw those poisons out to re-strengthen and rebuild the lungs, the bronchioles.

Yeah, I know. Well, I’ve got some patients that went over the edge with that and haven’t recovered. So, it’s very toxic because you’ve got a lot of building materials which are highly poisonous when they’re burned. So, I have a lot of people who were pretty healthy, and then all of a sudden they were in those fires and it caused multiple chemical sensitivity.

Well, several of them do it. One does not, and if that patient doesn’t do it, he’s not going to get better.

Well, it depends upon the person – how they’ve absorbed that toxicity in their lungs.

I would have to look at your lungs and your irises to see what kind of compounds are there.

The mucus is what draws those poisons out – it chelates with it; binds with it; helps remove it. So, lots of cheese is always the first thing to do. Draw the poisons out – absorb them.

Yes, you utilize the cheese as a nutrient when you have honey with it.

No, you can just have that twice a day. Let’s say after a meat meal. You just need a small amount to do that.

Okay, do you have a question Joseph?

Okay, as far as I’m concerned it’s an awful bill, but as long as it’s an opt-in and opt-out, I will support it because, in Organic Pastures, Mark thinks he can still make a good product. And what it does is: in the bill it says if they do the [inaudible] plan program to make sure that the milk is produced at the highest quality and standards which is voluntary, that they don’t have to follow the ten coliform count.

The ten coliform count has no relationship to deciding whether milk is safe or not. That was said by the experts who are against raw milk as well as for raw milk – we were there before the agricultural committee, so I’ve got it on CD.

Yeah. So, basically what I’m going to do within the next few months, after 201 gets voted on and it passes, I’m going to file suit against the Health Department for the ten coliform count because it doesn’t make it any safer.

It’s a bogus bill and it was snuck in and even assembly member Perea who submitted that Bill 1735 – she got all upset about the Health Department lying to her. So, this was said in the Senate house agricultural meeting. That’s basically what they are saying and that is not true. So, it’s a falsehood.

So, I’m going to support it as long as they have the opt-in and opt-out clause. If they don’t - then that’ll means that that’ll become law - I’ll sue against them. I’m going to sue against it anyway, even it passes with the opt-in opt-out clause, because it’s unwarranted and the Health Department needs to be put in their place.

Yeah. The reason they didn’t in that one DVD that is put on there by Christy – she created it. She didn’t put me in because we already had five scientific papers – I gave a testimonial saying in my experience, in my empirical work, raw dairy – even with high bacteria – has never created a problem. So, this is all unwarranted and I said that. But, you have to understand: Sally Fallon, all these people, believe it – they believe bacteria’s the problem. And it isn’t. If it were, I would be dead a long time ago.

I’m ready.

Well, that can be beneficial at times.

Definitely.

It can help balance the body, yeah. But, it can also be very harmful if you stay on it for too long.

If you get too alkaline.

Correct.

Right.

You’re about five-five, which is acidic. Seven is neutral.

Five-five.

Yeah. Blood; your saliva; your urine – should all be five-five. About that.

Yeah.

Not if you’re eating properly.

I wouldn’t do either – I would go on your symptoms. If you’re getting too hungry; if you’re getting lethargic; if you’re getting irritable; if you’re having depression – that’s a sign of getting too alkaline.

Yes.

Correct.

Well, like the cucumber – you can have half a cup to a whole cup.

You don’t need it because it’s not high in sugar – it’s like a cucumber.

In fact, the rind of a watermelon tastes like a cucumber.

Those are low in sugar.

Those are okay – and high in pectin.

But still, they’re not providing the protein and fats that you need – they’re still cleansing.

Well, that’s why I say: one fruit meal a day and lots of fat.

Well, anything’s fermented if you get fruits that aren’t high in sugar – like cherries and berries.

And unripe melon.

Well, just cut out the heart.

Right, yeah.

Then you’re not going to save your babies a balanced diet.

Yeah.

In small amounts and not highly sugary.

I said about a cup a day – half a cup to a whole cup.

Not a good idea, no.

Yes, I blend my cucumber with my juice to get the collagen precursors. Did you have a question, Elaine?

Well, you could be eating too much vegetable juice. Or, you could be

eating too – A day?

Could be too much.

Cut it down to maybe eight and eight ounces and see if that works. Or, six and six. Or, eight and four. See how that works.

Yeah, see if that works.

Yeah. Also, if you eat a lot of fat and you eat it too fast and you’re not making enough bile you can have diarrhoea.

I know, but how much milk are you drinking?

Not a good idea.

So, you have a whole cup or more?

Maybe a little too much. Take it down to three-quarters of a cup.

Well, just do the best you can. Eat some cheese with it.

Yeah.

Well, you’re going to eat butter with it, so always eat a little butter with your meat.

But, you want cheese to absorb that excess fluid. Uh-huh, then you need cheese. Definitely need cheese with your meat meal.

No.

Exactly. Oh, yes.

As soon as I started eating lots of dairy and meat from September ’76 – it took me a year to get chubby – not quite. I got chubby right away – probably four months.

So, I stayed chubby until about ’94.

Yeah.

He said I’ll have to meet a different woman. We know that’s a lie.

Well, at least it’s moving.

It’s moving. If it doesn’t move then you’ve got a problem; you need to move those toxins to get them out of the body. And if they’re dropping down to the lower part of your abdomen that’s a good thing; dropping down to all those lymph glands you have in the crotch and try to neutralize that toxicity.

So, be delighted.

Your bikini?

Those people don’t know you – who cares.

Any other questions?

Yes?

It’s better not to, until your body will naturally remove it. You don’t want to lose it.

No, you’re asking for trouble – you’re asking for symptoms.

So, the more fat you have, the more protected you will be.

Okay, folks.