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Q&A — December 8, 2002

December 8, 2002 · 1h 46m · Internet Archive ↗
Audience

Don't forget me. With the van.

Aajonus

Oh yes. Halfway through, we're going to take a little break. And did you need anything from Jim? James? Would you have cream?

Audience

I've got milk, butter, cream. I've got some organic raspberries, honey, royal jelly. Any heated cheese? No heated cheese. I didn't bring the cheese. And there is no warning light right now. I'm out, but they're sending it on Monday, so I should have it by late next week. You're late on Wednesday. No, I might not have it by Wednesday.

Aajonus

They're sending it on Monday. They should not receive it until later.

Audience

They only can produce about 60 to 80 pounds every two weeks. They're a very, very tiny little dairy. They can't produce much.

Aajonus

Well, there's a... There's a... L.A. bakery. La Brea. They import a lot of raw cheeses. Some of them unsalted. So you have to go there and talk with Kathy, I think. Kathy or Diane or either of them. And they know their cheeses. So if you want to get, you know, different varieties that are raw and unsalted, then you can go there.

Audience

What's the name of the bakery?

Aajonus

La Brea bakery. La Brea bakery.

Audience

It's on La Brea.

Aajonus

It's on La Brea. I think it's near Third. Between Third and, I think, Beverly.

Audience

And they don't heat it above 103.

Aajonus

Well, some of those countries don't heat it above 98 degrees.

Audience

[unintelligible] I can't do everything.

Aajonus

[unintelligible]

Audience

[unintelligible]

Aajonus

Okay. Let's start over here. You have questions?

Audience

Yeah. Don't have them right away.

Aajonus

Try to speak loudly. Okay, Richard. You have a question?

Audience

Formulation [unintelligible].

Aajonus

Alright. Arlene, do you have a question?

Audience

Yes, I do.

Aajonus

This is the slow side of the room.

Audience

We're the detoxers. We're the detoxers. There have been articles in the newspaper about the theory that's popular about 15 years ago. The doctors [unintelligible] The theory was that people ate very little, and they could live longer. The thing in the paper was that they did experiments on rats, and they gave them something like 60% less calories.

Aajonus

They were also, did you notice, did you find out which way they were feeding them?

Audience

And then rats can live longer.

Aajonus

Cooked processed foods. Of course, if you eat less cooked processed foods, you're going to have less heterocyclic amines, lipid peroxides, and acrylamides. So there's less toxicity. But if you're eating raw food, you can eat a lot.

Audience

So it doesn't apply to raw food?

Aajonus

No, it doesn't apply to raw food. Those tests were done on cooked food.

Audience

Did you know the doctor who did that?

Aajonus

Yeah.

Audience

[unintelligible]

Aajonus

Exactly. No. They ate cooked food. They didn't do raw food.

Audience

I'm just thinking [unintelligible]. So, you can eat as much as you want, but I feel that when I eat a lot, I feel really bad after a meal. So I really overeat, and then I feel really bad. I'm really lethargic, and I can't eat a lot, and I have to drink a lot. And then, sometimes I feel really ill, and I feel like I'm going to faint after a meal. [unintelligible]

Aajonus

Well, when I ask people to overeat, it's when they're too thin and trying to gain weight. If you've already got the weight, you don't have to pig out. Spread it out, eat it more evenly. When you eat a lot, the body has to take all the enzymes, restructure them for your body, and begin disassembling the food. That means the pancreas has a little bit of stress, and all of our pancreas are two and a half times normal size to handle all the cooked foods and sugars that we're acclimated to, carbohydrates that we're acclimated to.

The human being is the only one that has an oversized pancreas for so many hundreds of years, even thousands of years, eating cooked foods. Because the pancreas doesn't only handle carbohydrates and sugars, it handles any kind of enzyme that needs replacement.

The pancreas has to manufacture hormones to leach nutrients from every cell in the body a little bit at a time. So, every time you eat a cooked meal, it overworks the pancreas, leaches from every cell in the body just a finite amount, and that's collected over a long period of time.

For some people, they're a lot more sensitive because they were born with a lot of toxicity, and for others, they're not so sensitive because they may produce a lot of hormones that buffers and insensitizes them to their ill health. But nobody escapes unscathed, especially the pancreas.

So, if you have, especially heaviness on this side, you know it's the pancreas. If you have heaviness on this side, you know it's the liver. So, if it's on this side and it's the liver, you have a little bit more difficulty digesting fats. If it's over here, you're having a little too much difficulty digesting too much food at a time.

Audience

[unintelligible]

Aajonus

You have a pancreas?

Audience

What if you have a lot of pain on the left hand side?

Aajonus

That means you've got a severely damaged pancreas. Put a hot water bottle wherever you have the pain. It'll help relax the tissue. So, it will increase the nutrients to the area and then clean it up. Okay?

Audience

I'm going to ask you about keeping the house [unintelligible]?

Aajonus

Well, what I suggest with carpeting is that you hose it off, let it dry, hang it over a fence.

Audience

No, we're doing wall to wall in several rooms.

Aajonus

Yeah. Well, I would go through and have them clean it a few times. Shampoo it a few times.

Audience

You'd have to wait until the summer to do it as well?

Aajonus

No.

Audience

I can do that now.

Aajonus

Paint will dry quicker and that's important. Paint puts off fumes for up to five years if it's oil based. Dioxins.

Audience

And what would you shampoo [unintelligible]?

Aajonus

Shampoo?

Audience

Yeah.

Aajonus

Oh. There are biodegradable cleansers. I like the BioKleen. B-I-O-K-L-E-E-N. BioKleen. The grapefruit degreaser.

Audience

What's a good paint?

Aajonus

Any milk based. True milk based. All paint used to be made with milk.

Audience

Do you know any brands?

Aajonus

On the internet. You put milk paint and you go to websites. There are websites. And you can have it pre-mixed or you can have it in the powder and mix it yourself.

Audience

Pasteurized or raw? [laughter]

Aajonus

Pasteurized. [unintelligible].

Audience

What about water based paint?

Aajonus

Pardon?

Audience

What about water based paint?

Aajonus

Milk is a water based paint.

Audience

Milk is water based.

Aajonus

Yes. Milk is a water based paint.

Audience

But that's not water based paint that's being sold at your standard brands or whatever.

Aajonus

No.

Audience

Is the paint better to wait until the summer or does it matter?

Aajonus

[unintelligible] The casein is a protein in the milk. And even when it's heated it becomes slightly gaseous. So it's better.

Audience

But the carpet doesn't matter.

Aajonus

This weather is fine but February when it gets cold and rainy that's a bad time to paint.

Audience

But that's still different with the carpet though.

Aajonus

Correct. Just wash it a few times. If you want to go away for a week let them wash it a few times and let it dry completely. And then vacuum it when you return it.

Audience

[unintelligible] It makes more sense to take your shoes off. 50% of all the lead poisoning. Because it's what the cars spew out and all this fine dust in the air.

Aajonus

Well, it's not entirely true. It's just like they say most of the mercury poisoning is coming from fish. And most of the mercury poisoning is coming from canned food. Most of the lead is coming from canned food. Even aluminum cans. Lots of toxicity. The government is protecting the food industry. Just like they protected the drug industry with vaccines. Trying to mislead you about what's poisoning you.

Of course if you cook fish, you release the mercury, it becomes a free radical and it's dangerous. But if you eat the fish raw, it passes through you pretty well undigested and not set free from the fats.

Audience

So in other words you have to take off your shoes before every time you go in the house. Did you agree on that?

Aajonus

Well, I do. As soon as I get into that, I don't take leave outside because I don't have this large porch. So I take them off right inside the doorway.

Audience

That's what Japanese people do.

Aajonus

Jim, do you have a question?

Audience

I do. I'm not Japanese. [unintelligible]

Aajonus

I mean Mark. Yeah, Mark. I got you two.

Audience

I have a general question. You've often said that bacteria, viruses and so on are our friends because they help us detoxify. Get rid of dead and decaying tissue and all that. My question is, are there any exceptions to that? I mean are there actually some microorganisms that are just plain bad for us like the anthrax or smallpox or whatever?

Aajonus

Well, if they're man-made, they could be dangerous like the AIDS. Man-made, it's dangerous. It's been proven. It doesn't have a harmonious reaction. That doesn't mean the body can't adapt and make it that way, but for a lot of people we know that it isn't. Probably all man-made may be a problem and all the natural probably are not because we've adapted to millions and millions of bacteria. Only man-made is something that isn't very balanced.

Audience

Is asthma man-made or is it natural?

Aajonus

Asthma is a man-made, I mean is a natural toxicity. Asthma existed for many, many years. Some people, let's say, were born during the winter, late winter, and their mothers got very drained of fats by the time they were born.

And the fetuses were damaged and their mucus linings were poor and the more dust they inhaled, they would get a disease called bio-something. And lots of farmers got it, still get it, from too much dust. If their lungs aren't solid with good mucus, protect them. And it would develop into asthma, of course, working in coal mines. Even though that's not heated and it's a natural substance within the earth, it still creates emphysema and asthma.

So, he was asking about virus and bacteria, not diseases in general. So, virus are basically non-living. Consider those non-living protein particles that cause disruption or destruction. But basically it's the body's way of making solvent. It's a solvent. It goes in and breaks down tissue that can't be broken down in other ways. And it's usually inorganic. Probably most of the viruses that have come into being came into being in the last 100 years. Bacteria are alive, they eat. Viruses dissolve. Okay, do you have a question? Go ahead.

Audience

I keep a lot of my food in my vehicle. And I keep a thermometer in there, especially in the summer, just to make sure it doesn't get too warm. But recently it's been going down to as low as 45. And I keep eggs in there and the milk I've been drinking, I've been trying to do room temperature milk, like you said. But I'm finding the milk tastes almost as cold as the refrigerator. It's like sometimes 50 degrees and the eggs have gone down to 45 degrees. How much... Even at home actually it gets pretty cold overnight. Like in the morning, still like, you know, it might go down to 50. But should I do stuff like with the eggs, keep them in some place warm? How much...

Aajonus

Yeah, like a cupboard where it's warm.

Audience

How much is lost if they go down to 45 degrees?

Aajonus

Well, it pretty much makes them dormant. If they stay that way for, let's say, 15 hours, then it starts losing bacterial and enzyme activity.

Audience

Oh, so it's just like a brief period that it goes down to maybe...

Aajonus

Yeah.

Audience

If eggs are laid in a cold area... Sorry, yeah.

Aajonus

Very rarely does anything [unintelligible] in the wild.

Audience

I meant laid.

Aajonus

Pardon? Laid, yeah.

Audience

They're rarely laid, is it?

Aajonus

No. Well, they lay less. Probably 50% less.

Audience

Oh, okay. But anyway, my question is, if they're out there and they're laid in cold weather [unintelligible]?

Aajonus

No, that's a little bit too cold. I mean, unless a hen is sitting on them.

Audience

If it is 15 hours, and then you keep them in a room for a couple more days, does it come back up?

Aajonus

The bacteria will come back up again.

Audience

And it doesn't lose anything at that point? In other words...

Aajonus

It'll gain it back, despite the bacterial activity.

Audience

So if I have to in an emergency again, buy a dozen eggs at Whole Foods...

Aajonus

I do it once a while. 24 hours.

Audience

24 hours. And then they're back to...

Aajonus

Well, they're on their way. Depends upon how long they've been refrigerated.

Audience

I thought you said never buy at Whole Foods because the eggs are not [unintelligible].

Aajonus

I didn't say never. I never say never. I rarely say never.

Audience

There are many cases.

Aajonus

There's always a better. And if you can say do the better, the better's the better. I mean, you won't starve to death.

Audience

As long as it's cage-free?

Aajonus

Yeah.

Audience

On milk, if it's like 50 degrees, is that still too cool? Should I heat it up with some hot water or something?

Aajonus

It might be a little bit better if you have digestive problems or if you're forming too much mucus. A lot of mucus is formed from eating milk cold.

Audience

Is that bad?

Aajonus

Well, that particular kind of mucus is there to get rid of the proteins that have passed into the blood and the guts. So that's bad. Now, the mucus that would be produced normally just to get rid of brain toxicity, it would be half as much if you were to eat it room temperature.

Audience

What if you're in a hurry? Can you put the milk in some hot water?

Aajonus

Warm it. See what happens is the cold milk goes into the stomach, the stomach contracts. When the stomach contracts, it does not produce hydrochloric acid in the duodenum. So then the proteins don't get digested and the sugars aren't set free, so you get undigested sugars and proteins that go right into the blood. When it's warm, it's different.

Audience

After one and a half to two days, the milk separates and [unintelligible].

Aajonus

Just let it sit for two weeks and make sour cream out of it. That's what this is made out of. Let milk sit for a week, ten days, two weeks, ten to fourteen days and let it sit. Normally, cottage cheese will just be lumpy and light. If you let it sit long after it separates, there's a bacteria that forms it that makes it just like dough. Then you mix cream and butter with it and a little other spices.

What I do is I will blend about half an ounce of spices. I can put it in the recipe book, the spicy cottage cheese. I blend it, powder it, pour it into milk. I'll put it in a gallon, shake it a few times. Then it moves into the fat and then will settle in the fat. Most of it.

Audience

You throw the whey away. The whey goes away.

Aajonus

I don't throw it away. I keep it for my plants.

Audience

[unintelligible]

Aajonus

No.

Audience

Whey whey.

Aajonus

Whey whey.

Audience

Do you think [unintelligible].

Aajonus

Then you just start forming molds. That's cheese. All these great molds, you know, you go into a particular cave, you'll find in France and Spain. People find caves and then they'll buy the land and then they'll have cheese making factories in these caves. That produces a particular kind of mold. Each cave produces a different kind of mold.

Audience

There is no point in saying within a week to a month that you should throw it away. It's always good for something. So it's butter, cream, or cheese. That's how they make roquefort for instance in this particular cave. It's the only cave in France that produces that exact mold. Nobody else can duplicate it. It's been done that for thousands of years.

Aajonus

But you can duplicate. That's a very easy one to duplicate.

Audience

So if you have cream that's...

Aajonus

But you can only produce it with butter.

Audience

But if you have cream that's just not tasting as good as when you first got it and it's just been there for a couple of weeks.

Aajonus

Let it sit for a month or two months or three months in the refrigerator and you have sour cream. If you want to make quick sour cream, take it out of the refrigerator, leave a little air space, and in 10, 14 days you have sour cream.

Audience

But you cannot have open seal. It has to be sealed.

Aajonus

No.

Audience

Oh, okay.

Aajonus

If it's open and unsealed, then it'll sour quicker.

Audience

Okay.

Aajonus

Just don't let light touch it. Keep it in a dark cover so that.... The light will turn it bitter.

Audience

[unintelligible]

Aajonus

Slower.

Audience

We don't know. [unintelligible] We've never figured that one out.

Aajonus

Yeah, I've got the same problem. You ready for your question, Michael?

Audience

I've been, like, since I've been doing this, I've experienced some pretty interesting detox, that are pretty intense sometimes, I was reading the book yesterday...

Aajonus

Which one?

Audience

The first one. And it said something about, like, eating, like moldy raspberries. And it said you could be lethargic for up to a year.

Aajonus

Right.

Audience

Well, I'm lethargic a lot of times. I couldn't imagine doing something like that. And now with my latest detox that I emailed you about, you know, the burning. And I mean, I just want to slow it down. Isn't there... I mean, it's really uncomfortable. So, how do you slow something down? I mean, cooked food, is that it?

Aajonus

Cooked food is definitely a way to poison yourself to stop the deep tissue detox.

Audience

[unintelligible]

Aajonus

[unintelligible] Yeah. Yeah, I did too. That's about the only way. If you cut down on fruit, eliminate fruit altogether, it'll cut it down. Eat tomatoes instead, sweet fruits, it'll correct that. You won't go through much detoxification.

Audience

I mean, you...

Aajonus

Remember, all fruit causes severe detoxification because it's made into solvents to dissolve compounds and eliminate, eliminate compounds. So, any fruit adds to your detoxification. Any at all.

Audience

You mean to slow the detoxification?

Aajonus

You eliminate sweet fruit. Anything that's sweet, get rid of it.

Audience

So, you mean slow, not stop? Slow...

Aajonus

No, it'll never stop.

Audience

Okay.

Aajonus

If you're dead, it'll stop.

Audience

Okay.

Aajonus

Or if you're completely pure and clean, it might reduce to what's supposed to be natural.

Audience

But you don't recommend eating lots of fruit [unintelligible].

Aajonus

Well, if he's suffering, just cut

Audience

And then all you do is [unintelligible].

Aajonus

it out. No, he should not have a lot of sweet fruit.

Audience

Even if the fruit is really nice. Especially. [unintelligible] I mean, could you do that a couple days or something?

Aajonus

Well, any kind of intense fat will help absorb the poisons that may cause heavy symptoms. Usually I'll use cheese to do it, but now with the cheese pasteurized, you have to work around that.

Audience

[unintelligible] Look at what it is. The burning coming out of the rectum, I mean, it's like on a continual basis.

Aajonus

Well, you have to understand, you were a vegetarian for 20 years?

Audience

No.

Aajonus

How much?

Audience

About 12 years.

Aajonus

No, no, no, [laughter], 12 years without protein.

Audience

I ate a lot of fruit, too.

Aajonus

Yes, you dissolved your whole body. So you can imagine how...

Audience

But all those acids should have come out, then.

Aajonus

No. No, because your body can't eliminate it without fat. You just dissolve it and it all retains in the body. So you've got a tremendous amount of dump. You just need to eat a lot more cream with it.

Audience

Okay.

Aajonus

A lot more cream. Less butter. And concentrate on cream as long as you're having a burning... He's got a burning rectum. A hot rectum.

Audience

Woo! Woo! A real hot rectum. Don't get excited, ladies.

Aajonus

Because it's actually hot. So what is happening is his body is discharging a lot of acids that burn the rectum. That can cause hemorrhoids in some people. For him, it's just burns. It does make the tissues very red and irritated. It can cause an eczema or even some ulcerations without turning it into a hemorrhoid. He just needs lots of cream. Cut out butter until the burning stops. Butter causes more detoxification of acids. Cream soothes and heals and protects more. It'll absorb some of those acids.

Audience

I noticed when I've had cream, especially like for the evening and the morning, I'll feel like heavy through my chest. Is that...

Aajonus

Creams do detoxify the heart and lungs, so you get the cream. Heavy heart, hot ass. Light heart, burnt ass.

Audience

Butter causes more detoxification of the acids and the cream soothes it, stops it.

Aajonus

The cream, no, does not stop it. It absorbs those acid toxicities. Toxins.

Audience

[unintelligible]

Aajonus

Not frozen though. Frozen will alter it. Frozen creates more detoxification.

Audience

So ice cream still has some value?

Aajonus

Yeah, it'll be more detoxification. Like all I have to do is eat some ice cream, especially if it's made in an EMF, electrical one. I go into an instant lung detox. Start coughing, producing mucous, comes right up into my throat. Instantly, within minutes, it'll do it. If I have ice cream made in my hand cracker, I may get a little bit sometime during the day or evening or night, but I don't notice it much.

Audience

Do you want to have a fast come up or do you want to keep it slow? Slow with toxins?

Aajonus

That depends upon if you're suffering. If you're suffering and hating it, then you want to slow it.

Audience

The EMF of the blender does not bother you?

Aajonus

Don't blend it that long. Blend it mostly 15 seconds at the most.

Audience

The ice cream is long.

Aajonus

Yes, half an hour.

Audience

[unintelligible]

Aajonus

There's a hand cracker blender that is sold where?

Audience

[unintelligible]

Aajonus

Oh, camping. A camping place on Pico near Sawtelle. Not Sawtelle, it's the other side of the 45. Yes.

Audience

How much was it?

Aajonus

How much? How much?

Audience

[unintelligible]

Aajonus

Where?

Audience

[unintelligible] There's a naughty word here. It's the N word. They would not allow us to use anything. [unintelligible] You mentioned about the sweet foods, so you could have the oranges?

Aajonus

Oranges are sweet. They still have high amounts of carbohydrates. Anything that is high in carbohydrates is not a fruit that you want to eat. Oranges are high.

Audience

What do you consider a non-sweet fruit?

Aajonus

Tomatoes, cucumber, zucchini, avocado.

Audience

Raspberries.

Aajonus

They're lower. Grapefruit, those are all high in carbs. Lemons are high in carbs. Pineapples. Even if they're sour.

Audience

Anything good, forget about it.

Aajonus

I'm finally detoxing some of my diabetic stuff from when I was a child. So even though I'm not eating fruit, I eat maybe fruit once every two weeks. But now I'm having cramps in these toes and this hand.

Audience

Arthritis?

Aajonus

No, that's from toxic sugar stored in the body that wasn't broken down properly because I was diabetic. And that's a detoxification right now. I'm finally getting this stuff out.

Audience

Is fruit acid?

Aajonus

Fruit is [unintelligible]. Acid or alkaline.

Audience

I think those cramps, that's not mineralized. I get that too and I'm a sugar person. So that's what's going on?

Aajonus

Yes. Toxic sugars are robbing the fats from the muscles. And those acids, remember it's like Coca Cola when they're poorly formed sugars. And they burn the myelin, the sheaths of the nerves in the muscles. And that causes the cramps. Have you ever seen a diabetic in a cramp mode? I mean it's pretty bad.

Audience

What do you do for that?

Aajonus

Sit it out.

Audience

No eat fat or anything?

Aajonus

If you can. Usually when somebody's in they kind of go, oh well if you're just having cramps, just drink cream.

Audience

It robs the what from the muscles?

Aajonus

The fats.

Audience

The fats.

Aajonus

And myelin. Protection. Yes.

Audience

My son's 12 and he's [unintelligible]. [unintelligible]

Aajonus

He won't gain weight from that. What you do is use raw cream, raw eggs and honey. It'll be very simple.

Audience

[unintelligible]

Aajonus

High sugar. That'll turn it into detoxification, instead of stabilizing. And eggs. How tall is he? He's what?

Audience

A head shorter.

Aajonus

So he could probably use four eggs, four ounces of cream, a tablespoon or two of honey.

Audience

Why no milk in there? That's like a creamie.

Aajonus

Well it's just to help him put on weight initially.

Audience

What about carob?

Aajonus

Carob will absorb a lot of the fats. Carob is pectin, mainly pectin. Pectin binds with fat and just passes it through your system.

Audience

Is that good for helping with bowel movement? [unintelligible]

Aajonus

No, not a lot of carob. Tomatoes and cream together are your best natural laxatives. Okay, let's go through here. Relating to that one. Okay.

Audience

[unintelligible]

Aajonus

No, no, no, he still needs that. He's very acid. Just because he's a vegetarian doesn't mean he turned alkaline. Because everything he ate burned up the system and remained acid inside. So he still needs vegetable juice. It will help alkalize the blood.

Now if he had been a raw food vegetarian strictly, sometimes and he had been more on the diabetic side, it would have been different. But he was on the acidic side with high adrenaline. Thin side. Okay, Lewis, question.

Audience

Okay, well, now that I've gone over your new book and cross-referenced back to the old book, the hardest thing is keeping everything up to date. In other words, what do you tell people as far as what is up to date and preventing any confusion as far as…

Aajonus

Well, I stated in the second book, some of the things that have changed is I cut out as much fruit. I also cut out the breads and using nuts.

Audience

That's basically the main difference.

Aajonus

Right.

Audience

You mean like the nut formula?

Aajonus

Nut formula in place of cooked starches.

Audience

Oh, still the same nut formula.

Aajonus

Yes. In other words, I don't recommend the cooked starches at all, cooked carbs, but to use the nut formula instead. It does the same thing without the acrylamides and the advanced glycation end products collecting.

Audience

With the nut formula, when you get the urge to for bread or something. Can you do that too often in a week?

Aajonus

Yes.

Audience

What's the maximum you should have, like say in a week? If you're having cravings for…

Aajonus

No closer than three days apart.

Audience

But how much in that time that you have it, that first time you have it? You have to have the whole four-ounce jar and that butter formula?

Aajonus

Depending on how much you eat.

Audience

But not like a three-day... You have to wait three days to have it again?

Aajonus

Correct.

Audience

What if you don't get them at all? Are you bad?

Aajonus

Yes. There are neurological toxins in me that can only be bound with starches. That's the only place we can get lots of starches without eating cooked food. Twice a week every three days apart. At least three days apart.

Twice or once a week, depends on the person. Depends on the person. If you find yourself going through emotional stuff, let's say you're pissed off at your husband or boyfriend, or the guy's are pissed off at their girlfriends or wives, and there's no reason for it, they haven't done anything, just the irritable. Those are hormones, toxic by-products of hormonal activity during times of stress in the past. You're just using activity, emotional tension to release it like exercise. You have that formula, you won't have all that stress. You'll have the starches there to bind with it so you won't be as irritable and nasty. You'll be liked more.

Audience

When guys get pissed off, does that apply more to males or to the females?

Aajonus

I just said either way. Either way.

Audience

[unintelligible] Actually, I like that one better because the one that you gave me [unintelligible].

Aajonus

Cut that out. Don't have that formula. The formula I gave you is better, just cut that out.

Audience

[unintelligible] formulas better.

Aajonus

If I've given you a specific nut formula for you, that's the one to have. It's too sweet, just cut down on the honey. Cut down anyway.

Audience

I have another one that a couple times I've had it, the next day I get like a really bad canker sore of like that for 10 days. And I notice that it's [unintelligible] without soaking in it. Can I soak these walnuts?

Aajonus

Then you'll have a different form of enzyme inhibitor, which is even worse than when it's raw. You just may need to let yours sit for a few hours before you have it. Make it the night before so the bacteria will start breaking it down.

It's a problem with raw food fruitarians and vegetarians. They lose, every year goes by, they lose more and more digestive... You have somewhere around 3 million different ways to construct enzymes for digestibility, for digestion. And if you've been a vegetarian for about 10 years, you'll lose about 50% of those. Each year after that you lose about 2% a year. And it decreases exponentially.

So like Owanza who was vegetarian for 14 years, by the time she was 35 she had cancer all over her system and couldn't digest anything, not even water. It's a difficult time, so she has a lot of digestive disabilities. So if he lets his food sit, lets bacteria start breaking it down, then he'll be able to handle it better.

Audience

Totally, I've had digestive problems for a long time, and I've been telling people because [unintelligible]. My body is working so much better than it ever worked in my life. I've had the same thing where I finally ate it and when I started this, I was unable to digest anything without feeling bloated for a really long time. But I had also been vegetarian for 20 years. When I had the nut formula my throat started burning. So should I still have it anyway?

Aajonus

Absolutely, you just might want to follow with a little cream. What that does is it starts pulling out the acids in the esophagus and larynx. It's drawing them out. They're usually neurological acids, like what's burning his rectum. Those are the most concentrated in metals, nerve tissue. When that degenerates, you have high amounts of toxic metal in the system. And when that goes through the tissues, into the mucous membranes to attach to the mucus to discharge, it burns the tissue.

Audience

And the bee pollen, do [unintelligible]?

Aajonus

Well, the bee pollen is a very finite protein and that helps detox the nerves. But it isn't the properties of the bee pollen that's acid. It causes the burning of [unintelligible] and helps detox.

Audience

Now, [unintelligible] whatever you have in the book?

Aajonus

Yes.

Audience

So some of this will you need to do the nut formula even during the weight loss part of the program, right?

Aajonus

Yes. Well, yes, it's a good idea to still do the nut formula once a week, even in the weight loss program.

Audience

[unintelligible], everybody?

Aajonus

If you get irritable, you better do it.

Audience

[unintelligible]

Aajonus

What are you talking about? I'm not talking about that.

Audience

[unintelligible]

Aajonus

What did you ask?

Audience

The same amount of butter to do it on the weight loss?

Aajonus

Yes, but you're only doing it once a week.

Audience

Aajonus, regarding that, because I haven't had nut formula in a month. The walnuts that I have in my fridge, should I toss them, and buy fresh stuff or can I use them?

Aajonus

Fine. If you had them properly sealed. Everybody should put their nuts in jars, they'll last years that way. If you go through them in a month or two, then that's fine. If you leave them in plastic and still hold them sealed in the refrigerator.

Audience

[unintelligible]

Aajonus

In jars, refrigerators.

Audience

But if it's only the shells, if they're shells, you can keep them in the cupboard.

Aajonus

Keep them in the cupboard, but they should also, if you've got nuts in the shell, still put them in a container, because they will dry out. They'll get drier and drier and drier. That's why squirrels bury them in the ground, so they'll stay moist and don't dry out and shrivel up. Okay.

Audience

Me?

Aajonus

Yes. Yes. [unintelligible] But it's always relevant. I know. Go ahead, Jess. [unintelligible] apologizing.

Audience

I'm not clear about between the lube and the cream, because when I first started the diet, I always felt guilty because I loved my lube formula with cream. I hated the butter, and I always felt guilty that I didn't have enough butter. Now it's changed to [unintelligible].

Aajonus

I needed you to get the butter, because the butter will get everywhere.

Audience

Okay. Now, I love cream. I don't like butter.

Aajonus

Well, you've always liked the cream and not the butter.

Audience

Yes.

Aajonus

You can have more cream, since you put on the weight, and you're more lubricated.

Audience

Okay.

Aajonus

But you can't do without it completely.

Audience

But I still have to use a little butter.

Aajonus

Yes. You still need the lube formula at least twice a week. With butter.

Audience

With butter. Okay. So now, we only have [unintelligible].

Aajonus

I think you ought to get a flogging tool now. That'll take care of the guilt.

Audience

[unintelligible] It's only if you're irritable on the weight loss.

Aajonus

[unintelligible]

Audience

It's only on the weight loss if you're irritable. I don't care if I'm irritable. I live alone.

Aajonus

It doesn't matter. That formula will help your nerves. You've got the radiation in your nerves.

Audience

Is that only if you're irritable on the weight loss?

Aajonus

Yes.

Audience

Otherwise, you don't need that on the weight loss.

Aajonus

If you have a tendency, don't wait until you get irritable, or get a tendency to be irritable on the weight loss program.

Audience

You do it automatically, or do you not?

Aajonus

Once a week.

Audience

Does it cause constipation?

Aajonus

Nut formula? No, you have enough butter in it.

Audience

Okay.

Aajonus

Also, for people who are having trouble with constipation... [audio cut] ...I say sugar by-products that your body is eliminating, either acrylamide or advanced glycation end products, especially if they're buried in your intestinal walls.

Audience

But you know it's there, because it comes out.

Aajonus

You see them.

Audience

They're alive?

Aajonus

Not when they're pooped out.

Audience

No, they still move. They're alive. [unintelligible] But why did that first one come out so fast then if I had all this stuff still in me?

Aajonus

It's just that particular worm wasn't eating the old stuff. It was eating stuff that was in the intestine. It changed its diet. It changed the type of sugars it was eating.

Audience

Do they want to eat any meat or egg?

Aajonus

They don't eat protein. Tapeworms exist only in third world countries where they mainly eat cereals and grains.

Audience

Wow.

Aajonus

And you need those. You see those little children with the big tummies? It's because all they're eating is all this carbs. And carbs aren't good for a human diet. So what happens is the tapeworms, they're eating all of this. Of course, the medical profession says, oh, the tapeworms are eating the food so you're not getting it. Well, fuck, get them off of the carbohydrates and feed them some dairy and meat, and then you'll see the change.

Audience

Why do they have it over there and we don't have it here?

Aajonus

Because we eat meat and dairy.

Audience

Okay. Can I ask a question about that? [unintelligible] I've had ongoing fatigue for a long time.

Aajonus

Usually tapeworms exist in people who eat high carbs and they're naturally lethargic anyway. But people who are on a good, raw meat, dairy diet, don't have the same type of fatigue.

Audience

And I'm just wondering how long it's going to take [unintelligible]?

Aajonus

He's your friend. They're your friends. They're helping you get well quicker. Like I say in the second book, people who have worms get well five times faster than in the other way, than the solvent reaction way. So enjoy it. Enjoy your little slimy friends.

Audience

Are worms considered parasites?

Aajonus

No parasites in worms.

Audience

I know I've been diagnosed with parasites.

Aajonus

You have worms, parasites everywhere in the body for all types of tissues.

Audience

[unintelligible]

Aajonus

Yeah, because it's the cause of massive detoxification, of sugar detoxification in some people.

Audience

How long you go before that problem stops [unintelligible]?

Aajonus

You'll go in and out of it. In and out. Four years.

Audience

[unintelligible]

Aajonus

When the bee collects the nectar, it swallows it. It manufactures an insulin-like substance which converts 90% of the carbohydrates into enzymes for digesting, utilizing, and assimilating protein. Only 10% is sugar.

Audience

But still, when that honey hits my teeth, I get pain. So I brush my teeth.

Aajonus

10% can be a lot to some people.

Audience

What, 10% what?

Aajonus

10% of the honey being sugar.

Audience

But I still should eat the honey.

Aajonus

Absolutely. It helps you digest your protein. You won't get well if you can't digest your protein. You don't need it. Because we're so ill, you are all diseased. There's something [unintelligible] said.

Audience

Yeah.

Aajonus

You're all diseased. You are all diseased. So count on eating honey for a while. Do you have a question?

Audience

Not yet.

Aajonus

Okay. Jim. Let me call you Martin.

Audience

No. If I were eating cooked food, this would be like a manifestation of B-Vitamin deficiency. Sometimes when I wake up in the middle of the night and I stay awake, I'm like churning on things. I'm like thinking of things. This is totally wasted downtime. And I would rather be sleeping. And I felt like this might be related to exercise. Like if I had a good workout and stuff like that, then I would be able to sleep better. But I'm not quite sure what really is going on.

Aajonus

Okay. First of all, I'm going to get rid of the myth that you've got about B vitamins. B vitamins [unintelligible] do not create diseases. Like you said, I've got a vitamin deficiency disease. No such thing.

Just because when people are administered B vitamins, it stops the reaction that normally would be associated with that particular type of symptom, does not mean that it's a vitamin deficiency. All of your B vitamins supplements are toxic. There is no way to get B vitamins extracted without solvent or heat extraction. It could be petroleum or it could be alcohol. They all damage the B vitamins. It's a toxin. When it goes into your system, your body has to deal with that toxin.

If it's B12, it's like cocaine. It's not a healthy substance. But it will charge you and make you feel better. But boy, the damage that it does will be nasty, especially if you're injecting it. So all of these vitamin-associated diseases are all about pharmaceuticals.

Audience

So I think there's stuff like G3 and the protein and all of this stuff that people claim in Germany and whatnot, longevity, and you hear it in the country, people are doing all that stuff.

Aajonus

Have you heard anybody in Germany living over 106 years?

Audience

I don't know if I'm into it. I just think it's very interesting. I'm not agreeing with it.

Aajonus

No, that's what I'm saying.

Audience

[unintelligible]

Aajonus

Let me tell you, if they did, it would be out.

Audience

So what do I do about this?

Aajonus

The nut formula. It would sound like you're having psychological hormones and you're detoxing at night. Remember, like I said in the second book, when the nervous system detoxifies and starts at midnight and goes to 5 o'clock in the morning. If you cannot sleep in that time, you're going through a neurological detoxification and don't expect to sleep.

If you're having the nut formula every three days during that kind of a thing, you'll arrest a lot of those but still don't expect to sleep. If you don't, then you better go exercise. But that may debilitate you more.

Find something to do when you can't sleep that's creative or that you enjoy doing, meditating, whatever it is, to fill up that time so you feel it's useful. If you don't, you're going to be beating yourself up because you're not sleeping.

Like I say in the book, you sleep between 5 to 5.30 in the morning, sleep until 7 if you have to go to work. You'll have a nap then. When you get home, make sure you're in bed by 7, 7.30. Then when you wake up at midnight, 1 o'clock, 2 o'clock, you have gotten sufficient rest. If you sleep once all in one block, you need more sleep and you'll feel less restful. When you break your sleep pattern up into two blocks, one main and a nap, you need less sleep. You usually cut an hour of sleep out.

Audience

I actually think I wake up at 4, like a month or so. [unintelligible]

Aajonus

Do something and then take a nap around 5 o'clock in the morning.

Audience

[unintelligible] [laughter] I always have it. I'm having the same thing. A lot of exercise helping that or hurting it? Sometimes doing four hours of exercise.

Aajonus

Well, if you have too much exercise, it's going to make it worse. Because you're going to be detoxing a lot of acids, all the uric acids from the muscular byproducts.

Audience

So what's a good amount of exercise?

Aajonus

Depending upon the individual. If you've got a lot of adrenaline, then you need to exercise a lot to burn it. That depends on how many worry circles I see in the eye. Do you remember how many worry circles?

Audience

You said I had a lot.

Aajonus

Yeah, you need to exercise. I would have told you anywhere from an hour and a half to three hours of exercise. I don't remember. What did I tell you?

Audience

You probably told me that at the beginning and I thought, oh, I could never do that much.

Aajonus

Now you're going way over that, right? Go back to that.

Audience

Can I have milk or cream or eggs at the 4:00 point?

Aajonus

Absolutely. Cream and eggs together. For resting and relaxing the nerves. And a little meat would be good.

Audience

Meat?

Aajonus

Chicken? Meat. M-E-A-T.

Audience

Okay, thank you.

Aajonus

You're welcome. Barbara?

Audience

Okay. I've passed menopause and...

Aajonus

Did you wave?

Audience

[laughter] Yes I did.

Aajonus

Good rhythm.

Audience

But now, I don't know if it's a detox or what it is but I'm getting my period again. What's that all about?

Aajonus

Then you didn't have menopause. You went in and said, "Hello there! Goodbye again!". But most women who go back into their menstruation, and I would say women who've been through, recently been through menopause at an earlier age, usually reverse it, 50 to 60% of the women. Reverse it and go back to having periods.

Audience

What does that mean?

Aajonus

You're starting to manufacture those reproductive hormones again. So if you don't want children, watch out.

Audience

[laughter]

Aajonus

Watch it, James.

Audience

I don't know if you did any of your research on this, but I found among the indigenous people in South America that they have much shorter periods, like one to three day max. And I know that I and most people, I think, here have like five, seven days, heavy. Is that because of...

Aajonus

More toxicity, more pollution.

Audience

So as we get healthier, that should decrease?

Aajonus

Yes, down to three days. Maybe in 40 years, you know, women coming out, it would be shorter, one, one and a half, two days. Do you have a question. Question? Oh, my God, Jimmy, you look so freaking different. Wow, you lost all that weight. Wow, I didn't even recognize you. Congratulations.

Audience

I have [unintelligible] going to ask. Basically what happens is I'm very allergic to cats, and I'm wondering how much... I love cats. I don't know how I can... If it's something I can do or if it's something I [unintelligible].

Aajonus

Exactly. There's a lot of people who have allergies. Remember Owanza, we went to New York and visited one of her relatives in the Bronx. They had six cats in the house. They were only allowed on the upper floor, and they had three floors. It's a townhouse. We stayed on the first and second floors. Her eyes were black within two hours of being there. These cats were upstairs.

Dander floats in the air. The skin flakes. Because they feed cats canned food, processed food with heavy metal toxicity in it, and nothing raw, these animals, they don't perspire except the tongue, the nose, the eyes, and the rectum. The only way they can perspire, that's why they're going like that, because that's the only way they can emit those toxins.

When the poisons are built into the skin, they are built into the skin. They don't perspire out of the system. Those heavy metals and all the other poisons that are preservatives, everything else that's in the food gets built into the skin.

People who have asthma and emphysema and just general sinus difficulties, mucous membrane problems, they're not forming a mucus which has good protein. When the body builds mucus, it builds strands of protein, links. You can observe this with a woman's period, who goes [unintelligible]. When they're fertile, you can take the mucus, it discharges, and it will string, sometimes this long. When they're not fertile, it will pop, very short strands.

During fertilization, to protect and hold the egg, the strands become very long, the protein fibers become very long, and it's a mesh network. People who have alimentary canal problems, respiratory problems, do not build proper mucus. They do not build those fibers to block out the elements from entering the mucus membrane. So the mucus can hold it, and then you can spit it up or swallow it. So your body has not made it yet, still not making it yet, to isolate and control those from going into your system. It took Owanza seven years. I still don't like to be around cats that aren't on raw diets.

Audience

So if they were on a raw diet for [unintelligible]?

Aajonus

As long as they're very young.

Audience

Okay, the cat [unintelligible]

Aajonus

No, way too late. You're still going to suffer for a couple of years. You have to get them six weeks, five weeks old. Because those toxins, by nine months old, those toxins are built into the skin, and at nine months old, that's almost a teenager. That's about nine years old, eight or nine years old for a cat.

Audience

But if you don't have that problem and you put your cats on a raw food diet...

Aajonus

They'll get better, they'll stop emitting all those poisons out. In their dandruff. Because I don't care if you don't have an allergy. They're still affecting you.

Audience

[unintelligible]

Aajonus

But cats are worse.

Audience

It'll take like two to three years. If I got a cat, it would take 2-3 years for it to detox?

Aajonus

About two years. Two and a half years.

Audience

The other quick question I have is, I only get asthma lately at night before I go to sleep, or in the morning when I wake up. And it's always like I wake up at like 7.20. And so I'm wondering, is there anything I can do...

Aajonus

Remember your body detoxifies the neurological system at night.

Audience

So is there something I can drink right before I go to sleep? Because right when I lie down, I'm like, oh great, here comes the asthma. Is there anything I can drink or do before I go to lie down?

Aajonus

A milkshake. Probably without milk is better. But you know, lots of cream and eggs. A little bit of honey.

Audience

No fruit?

Aajonus

Fruit will cause the detoxification.

Audience

All right.

Aajonus

Celeste.

Audience

Yes. Someone has asked questions about heaviness in the pancreas and also heaviness in the liver. I've been having heaviness in my liver a lot, especially during the work week when I bring all my stuff and I'm really good on the diet. On the weekends sometimes like I'm busy so I'll just drink milk or I'll just eat some eggs or something like that to get me by or something. But is, and you said something about being about fat. Is that something that I need? What should I do in case of something like that?

Aajonus

Just add some lemon juice to your juice, vegetable juice. Juice one lemon, one medium sized lemon per quart of vegetable juice. And that will help the liver break down those fats. It's less heavy.

Audience

That's the only time you put the lemon into the juice.

Aajonus

Well, some people who are very, very overweight in their weight loss cycle, you can put some lemon juice in the vegetable juice.

Audience

But still keep with the amount of fats that I'm eating.

Aajonus

Correct, yeah. Unless you're on the weight loss program. You don't like that yet, right? You were skinny for a very long time. How long were you vegetarian?

Audience

Years, I was doing meat before I got on the diet for quite a while. But when maybe about 20 years ago before that I had been vegetarian for a while.

Aajonus

Alright. Do you need to go soon?

Audience

Yeah.

Aajonus

Do you want to, shall we take a break and [unintelligible]?

Audience

We're going to be on this side then, right?

Aajonus

Yes. So all those, take your same place. I remember, thank you. [audio cut] I produced these. It's a little late for the season, but you know, better late than never. Anyway, if you would like, you know, when you're turning people on to the diet, this makes a nice presentation for the folks if you would like. There's plenty more on the end of the table if you'd like.

Audience

[unintelligible]

Aajonus

In German.

Audience

[laughter] Right away, right away.

Aajonus

Well, I'm just putting it over and you guys can pass it out.

Audience

Hi Aajonus. Have you ever gone to Arizona to speak?

Aajonus

I haven't in two years.

Audience

I just sent somebody. [audio cut]

Aajonus

[unintelligible] tattoos over the years. The only one I've ever considered was the [unintelligible].

Audience

Any plans for the future to update your first book?

Aajonus

Yes, because it will be republished next year in the softback.

Audience

Oh, yay.

Aajonus

So it will be updated. Okay, let's start over here.

Audience

I'm new to the diet. I've been doing it for two months. I'm still eating whatever I want. Like, cooked food, whatever.

Aajonus

So you didn't do the diet.

Audience

What I ended up doing was eating 25 pounds of milk. I love the milk so much. Recently, every time I try, I make my own ceviche or [unintelligible]. I know it's psychological, the taste's fine. But that fourth bite [unintelligible] gagging. I'm not sure about that.

Aajonus

People who eat a lot of milk usually do not have an appetite for meat. Just cut down on milk. That's why I say in the book, do not overdrink milk, because then you won't eat the meat.

Audience

Do you think that would stop the gagging?

Aajonus

It would stop the gagging.

Audience

Oh, you think it would?

Aajonus

Oh, yeah. It dilutes the hydrochloric acid so much by drinking so much milk that when the meat goes in, it doesn't digest well. It causes nausea. Just like eating too much fruit will cause nausea when you eat meat.

Audience

My question is, if I can't eat that much, can I eat egg or something in place of it? Even if I do cut back on milk, which I did already cut back on milk, and it was still happening, could I eat like, what, eggs or something?

Aajonus

Well, there's nothing that's going to help you lose weight like raw meat. Raw meat burns fat.

Audience

Raw meat burns fat?

Aajonus

That's why the Zone Diet works. That's why the weight loss program works for almost everybody. 99% of everybody who's in the weight loss program loses weight because it's mostly meat.

Audience

You're drinking 8 ounces of milk at night for the nerve factor?

Aajonus

Just to calm the body down.

Audience

[unintelligible]

Aajonus

Yeah, well, unless you're talking about somebody who's 6'5", and they maybe need two cups.

Audience

But I mean, if you have all that milk, and then you have that colostrum too [unintelligible] right?

Aajonus

Yeah, you can use colostrum instead of milk at night.

Audience

Do you have a milk with your meat? Chicken or fish? No.

Aajonus

No. Not on the weight loss program.

Audience

Oh, okay, on the regular program.

Aajonus

Yeah, as long as it's not cold milk. Okay, Kathy, do you have a question?

Audience

Yeah, I have developed a canker sore in my upper lip in five years. It's been irritating me. [unintelligible] Oh, yeah, the canker sore up on the upper lip here, and it's been irritating my [unintelligible].

Aajonus

Do you eat cream with the tomatoes?

Audience

[unintelligible] Well, I've just been doing it, yeah, but on the weight loss, [unintelligible].

Aajonus

So it's usually when you get to the point where your body doesn't have enough blood fats to handle the metal toxicity, so it starts discharging through the gum.

Audience

Oh, what do you do [unintelligible]?

Aajonus

That's usually the time to stop the weight loss program. I said in the recipe book, if you start a heavy detox, break the weight loss, go on a normal diet until it ceases, and then restart the weight loss program. Sometimes when your body gets down to that level and starts having a strong reaction, that's about all you're going to be able to lose until the next time, so it's time to go back up again.

Audience

Would you put cream on?

Aajonus

It might help a little bit.

Audience

There's another thing that sometimes I have is shakes.

Aajonus

I would just cut out butter for four or five days and just have cream in place of butter.

Audience

You mean because of the canker sore?

Aajonus

Cream is less of an acid.

Audience

[unintelligible]

Aajonus

No, you'd be having it in your lubrication formula. You'd be having cream instead of butter.

Audience

It would be seven tablespoons of butter. The shakes, is that part of it.

Aajonus

Well, you're not using butter in your shakes, or are you?

Audience

Oh, I'm doing, I have the shakes in my nervous system.

Aajonus

Cream helps.

Audience

I'm having the butter in the lube formula.

Aajonus

You just have cream.

Audience

Until when? When do I go back again?

Aajonus

Four or five days until your canker sore stops. I want you to know that I have a couple of bouncers back there for people who are talking.

Audience

You mean hiding?

Aajonus

Yes, they are.

Audience

You know, I thought that the thing with canker sores, I've noticed, I need to add something, that the canker sores now that I get, I'm just, they don't nearly bother me as much as they used to before. I mean, I know that I have a little canker sore, but it doesn't, I mean, I can eat, like, the things that have you permission, that means they have to be specific things. It doesn't bother me. What is the...

Aajonus

The fats.

Audience

The fats. You don't like, you're on my, my... [unintelligible]

Aajonus

Oh, yes, okay, he asked, he asked me a question, he's got, he has problems in his joints right now. Similar to arthritis. Arthritis, virus or bacterial, is a matter of breaking down the toxicity that's in the joints. Over the years, as the cartilage rubs together, it breaks down, if you're not on a good diet... You've been on the diet how long? About four years, three and a half?

Audience

Three and a half years.

Aajonus

So it's worn all those years prior to the diet, it's worn down toxicity in the born marrow.

Audience

Excuse me, when people are talking, even in remote corners of the room, you can't hear what's on the tape recorder, so please don't. Thanks.

Aajonus

Yeah, go outside if you'd like to speak. So when you have that breakdown and it starts discharging, or the actual cartilage is so toxic that the body's decided to start spending its time on detoxifying the cartilage, you'll have an arthritis experience, which means it's either viral or bacterial, eating away the degenerative cartilage. That causes swelling, that causes soreness. And that's what you're experiencing.

Audience

I should [unintelligible].

Aajonus

Eat more chicken. Fifty percent of the diet of meat consumption should be chicken. Helps those joints a lot better. Roger.

Audience

As far as having meat, ground, I guess the meat, like the whole deal about the New Zealand beef, they put through two or three times. Why does that make it not as good as going through once?

Aajonus

Okay, like I said in the second book, when it goes through a high pressure grinder, it causes a homogenization of the fat, which that means is it takes the fat molecule and breaks it up. Then that molecule will absorb the protein.

And guess what doesn't get digested properly? It doesn't move through the liver properly, doesn't get digested properly, so it mainly turns into fuel instead of nutrients to regenerate and cause cells to divide, which means you become more alive.

You know, cells don't have little babies. They divide and they are a whole cell. Instantly they're mature, you know, as far as size goes. So they divide. That's how we multiply cells. When meat is ground under high pressure circumstances, it homogenizes the fat. The fat absorbs the homogenized fractionated fat molecules, absorbs the protein molecules, and doesn't release it. So the body can use it as fuel or for detoxification, but not for regenerating, not for helping cells divide and multiply.

Audience

And that also applies to chicken as well.

Aajonus

Correct.

Audience

So we shouldn't buy the ground meat then from Whole Foods?

Aajonus

No. If you want it ground, what you do is you get the chuck, you tell them to grind it, but only pass it through the grinder one time.

Audience

Or grind it yourself.

Aajonus

Yeah.

Audience

They'll do that if you tell them?

Aajonus

Yeah. They'll say, you know, you're going to lose a few ounces.

Audience

They tell you call, and then they ask to call up in the morning when they're not busy.

Aajonus

Because something gets stuck in it. Yeah, do it. I just take mine, I'll get my steaks or whatever. If I want cheap meat, I'll get the top round, bottom round, or chuck, and cut it up and throw it in my food processor. And that grinds it up in seconds.

Audience

Are there any ground meat in the store that are acceptable?

Aajonus

No. Well, not acceptable for regenerating cells, for reproducing cells, but for detoxification and energy, ground is fine in the store. But it's a hell of a waste of protein.

Audience

And on the chicken steak, all I get is just the breast, skinless and [unintelligible].

Aajonus

Skinless and boneless is fine, unless you're [unintelligible].

Audience

[unintelligible]

Aajonus

I favor the legs more because I like the flavor. Remember, chicken tastes kind of like flat, bland postage stamps. If it's old, if you let it sit out for four or five hours, it's much more tasty. If you leave your meat out, we give an example, it's harder to eat cold meat. If I eat cold meat right out of the refrigerator without a sauce, I'm lucky if I can get down four or five ounces.

If I put it in a jar and let it sit down in the cupboard for four or five, 12 hours, even 24 hours, I can consume a pound and a half of the sitting. When I was in Chicago, because the bacteria starts breaking it down, when you take it in the stomach and it's cold, it causes, just like the milk, cold milk, constricts the stomach, you don't produce the hydrochloric acid, moves fluid out of the blood and into the intestines without much hydrochloric acid.

Audience

How long do you leave it out?

Aajonus

I leave it out up to 24 hours sometimes. Normally overnight.

Audience

Do you put it in a cupboard or something?

Aajonus

Yes, I put it in a dark cupboard. The light will turn food bitter. Keep it out of the light. Put it in a dark cupboard.

Audience

Does it have to be in glass or can you put the package in the cupboard?

Aajonus

Glass. I put everything in glass. Once I get it home, I cut it up and put it in glass.

Audience

[unintelligible] You don't need this?

Aajonus

No, I only use that for my juice, keep my juice chilled. Otherwise I carry everything in my bag, over there my satchel bag. I've got a bag that's called the guy thing. This is the guy thing. I used to have a nice looking leather one that was stiff and all that. And Lori said, that looks so unmasked. Okay, I'll do the guy thing then. I got this.

Audience

[unintelligible]

Aajonus

Yes. The juice will break down very quickly.

Audience

How about the cream?

Aajonus

The cream I leave chilled until I'm going to drink it. Or a few hours before I'm going to drink it.

Audience

Do you have no lights in your refrigerator?

Aajonus

No, I unscrew the light.

Audience

Why?

Aajonus

There's radiation emitted from those lights. Heavy radiation.

Audience

[unintelligible]

Aajonus

Yes. You don't get a light in your refrigerator. How many times do you open that refrigerator in a day? Every time it comes on. I'm going to tell you, when it first comes on, it sends out a bunch of rays.

Audience

Can you just take them all out?

Aajonus

Yes, just unscrew it.

Audience

[unintelligible]

Aajonus

They don't make them for appliances. You turn on the [unintelligible] you're right in your room.

Audience

Yes. I have cream in my refrigerator for three or four weeks and I've never even opened it.

Aajonus

What did you have a question?

Audience

It's obviously sour and [unintelligible].

Aajonus

Just remember, any food that is predigested with bacteria will be easier to digest and better for us. The Hunzas and a lot of your tribes will ferment, sour their dairy products before they eat

Audience

It gets really, really thick.

Aajonus

them.

Audience

Is that cheese?

Aajonus

Like I said, if you want to make quick cream cheese, just put it in a jar with about this much air space in it. Put it in a low cupboard where there's no light hitting it. And then in about a week you'll have thick and the water will be at the bottom, the weight will be at the bottom, and you'll have thick cream cheese.

Audience

All these times we're getting radiation, whether light is on, it goes in everywhere in the food, even our high meat. [unintelligible]

Aajonus

Just lowering the bacteria level.

Audience

Can you have too much honey [unintelligible] and they love sugar and beef and I like to take them on...

Aajonus

Like I said in the recipe book, you know, six tablespoons of honey per pound of meat.

Audience

Now, if I, I don't have [unintelligible].

Aajonus

You know, I can't take your questions like this because that's, we're focusing on individual things for you and everybody gets the one question, unless it's relating directly to that subject. Okay, so that would be an individual consultation thing if you wanted to do that.

Audience

Why did you say not to leave the cream out?

Aajonus

Pardon?

Audience

Why did you say not to leave the cream out?

Aajonus

I didn't say don't leave it out.

Audience

What are the foods that you leave out of the refrigerator? When you take it in your bag there, you will.

Aajonus

No, I said most of the time I drink it shortly after I take it out of the refrigerator unless I want sour cream.

Audience

Okay.

Aajonus

But I mostly drink at room temperature.

Audience

[unintelligible]

Aajonus

Any food processor.

Audience

Any one.

Aajonus

Yeah. Right. Your smaller ones, you know, like the pint ones are very difficult for meat because you [unintelligible]. Food processor.

Audience

[unintelligible] I can't hear, guys. The people [unintelligible]. You go to Whole Foods and ask them [unintelligible]. Is that the same thing?

Aajonus

No.

Audience

Then they're going to use that as a good protein.

Aajonus

Yeah. Correct.

Audience

[unintelligible]

Aajonus

Twice.

Audience

At a high pressure.

Aajonus

Right.

Audience

[unintelligible]

Aajonus

It's fine.

Audience

[unintelligible]

Aajonus

It'll build up more. Do you have question.

Audience

[unintelligible]

Aajonus

Eggs, cream, and honey. A small amount of honey. Just enough to sweeten. Cream and eggs. No milk. Cream and eggs. That's what I do. You need to put on the fat, get the weight on, so that it'll work.

Audience

60 pounds heavier. Mr. Irrigal five years ago. I'm Mrs. Irrigal, but he's Mr. Heitler. So bad. [unintelligible] Ben is the reason why.

Aajonus

No fat.

Audience

Yeah. [unintelligible] What was I so irritable about? Eggs and cream and little bit of honey.

Aajonus

Adrenaline, testosterone, estrogen, all of those, they look for fat to utilize. In fact, those hormones are usually 40 to 60 percent fat anyway. But they look for fat to utilize. So you utilize it as fuel.

If they don't find it, they go right into the myelin. The myelin is the sheath on the nervous system. Brain, meningi, throughout the whole system. It makes lesions and it pulls out the fat. And guess what? All the charges, the electromagnetic charges, loses buffering ability. So then, you know, children are like this, hyperactive. Because there's no buffer. It takes fat to buffer.

Audience

Making them raw milk all day [unintelligible], is that good?

Aajonus

Raw milk, no. It needs cream and eggs and honey. It's all thick and rich.

Audience

And how about reducing the sugar?

Aajonus

Once he gets overweight, then milk's fine. There's not quite enough cream and milk, but you have the high sugar ability. Most kids won't eat anything with cold milk for some reason. And the cold milk doesn't digest properly, like I said. So that causes more hyperactivity.

Audience

[unintelligible]

Aajonus

Good. Then it'll be more helpful.

Audience

[unintelligible]

Aajonus

Depends upon the bulb. [unintelligible] Because it's very, I could spend an hour talking about it. Okay. Do you have a question? Okay. Frank? Yeah?

Audience

All my life, my feet have been cold. I'm hearing, you know, that my body's getting a lot warmer. And cooler in the summer, but still my feet are ice cold.

Aajonus

It takes good, well-utilized fats. And as you can see, there's not much fatty tissue in the hands and feet. Can't build up enough. That takes many years because the bones are where most of the fat is in those limbs. Those tendons. If the bone marrow isn't absolutely perfectly healthy, you will always get cold in the legs. And it takes 20 years to rebuild the bone marrow three times.

Audience

[unintelligible]

Aajonus

That's what I said, toxic bone marrow.

Audience

All my life.

Aajonus

Yeah. Toxic bone marrow. The fats are poor.

Audience

[unintelligible]

Aajonus

No. God, most people like that. I would probably, you used to though, right? I would say probably 60% of the population suffers that.

Audience

[unintelligible]

Aajonus

I just got the new Prius hybrid. I tested it. My Subaru Outback Sport was 35 to 50. This Prius is only 8 to 11, 8 to 10 and a half. The Civic hybrid was off, the needle was off, so it was around 150 to 160 gauss.

Audience

The Honda Civic.

Aajonus

Honda Civic. Bad car. Bad car.

Audience

What do you have there?

Aajonus

EMF field coming out of it.

Audience

You know anything about Volkswagen? Are they high, Volkswagen?

Aajonus

Pardon? I haven't tested a Volkswagen.

Audience

Toyota. Where do you buy that EMF meter from?

Aajonus

I got it on the internet at Tools for Wellness.

Audience

What does it do?

Aajonus

It measures. Electromagnetic fields, radioactive waves.

Audience

Which one did you get?

Aajonus

Where did it go?

Audience

How do you get it if you're not going to have a computer?

Aajonus

Go to the library. Do you have a credit card?

Audience

Can you tell us the model you got so I can get one?

Aajonus

It's called Tri-Field.

Audience

What's their phone number?

Aajonus

Tri-Field. I don't know.

Audience

You look on the Tri-Field on the computer.

Aajonus

No, you go to ToolsForWellness.com. ToolsForWellness.com. www.ToolsForWellness.com. Yeah, without shipping it was around $150, $160 somewhere around there.

Audience

Because it's all different kinds. $229 I think.

Aajonus

Not at ToolsForWellness.com.

Audience

Yeah, but the website is [unintelligible].

Aajonus

Yeah? $229 now?

Audience

Yeah.

Aajonus

I just bought it two weeks ago.

Audience

[unintelligible]

Aajonus

Was it specifically the one that... because that model that I have? Well, what's the model? Because you may have a model that does more things. All you have to do... does anybody know where that went?

Audience

Yeah, I just put a couple [unintelligible].

Aajonus

Oh, you're going to keep them, are you?

Audience

I don't know. Somebody brought that one. Is there a model number?

Aajonus

It just says, tri-field meter.

Audience

Okay. My son has one and I have one, and each one of them measures differently. So it's like you really have to get the right one.

Aajonus

Well, you have to get a calibrated product. If one of yours isn't working properly, you need to send one or both of them back to find out if they're calibrated properly.

Audience

I've got a gauss meter. [unintelligible] And then my son just saw one, and I brought his over. According to his thing, my apartment's great, according to mine, I better get out of here. What did you find out on your car?

Aajonus

It was only... it went to 8 to 11, between 8 and 10 and a half. It would even go lower. But when it was... the engine was running, the electric engine was running, it would stay around 8 to 11.

Audience

Which is good.

Aajonus

Yeah, which is low compared to cars. Like I say, you know, a car with a... the more computer chips and everything it has in it, if they're using transistors instead of capacitors, there's a high EMF field emissions.

What that does is with me, like in a computer, if I'm using it, it'll cause my bones to become very sore. That's really what carpal tunnel is. The hand shit, that's a bull. It's an absolute bull. Secretaries have been typing without electrical for years, never got carpal tunnel. They had to hit those keys, it was a lot more work, never got carpal tunnel syndrome. The electrical field coming off of it. You know, that's why I say... [audio cut] ...down.

Audience

And how does it rate on the machine?

Aajonus

I said 8 to 10 and a half.

Audience

What is that used for?

Aajonus

It measures the electrical discharge from appliances.

Audience

[unintelligible]

Aajonus

I just told you that if I'm around those charges, it makes my bones ache.

Audience

I don't see any difference.

Aajonus

[unintelligible] Now, most people, especially men, are having pain in the right leg in America. In England, in places where the... the steering wheel is on the other side, it's on the left leg. EMF field is coming off of that transmission, and hits this right leg pretty heavily.

Audience

So, if you don't have any pain, they can know you don't have a problem.

Aajonus

No, you can be just numb.

Audience

You can just... [unintelligible]

Aajonus

Yeah, basically.

Audience

So, most cars... So, get a bike and move to Hawaii.

Aajonus

Now, all the cars, let's say, all the classic cars pre-1980, have no EMF field. Classic cars are better. More computer chips they use when they're using transistors instead of capacitors, EMF field exponentially larger.

Now, for a car, it would only cost them $15 a car to get rid of that. They're cheap. So cheap that they'll go ahead and put the transistors anywhere, anyway in use, because they're cheaper than capacitors. In a computer, you're talking about $1.50 less.

Audience

Wow. So, if you have anything electrical in your car, electrical...

Aajonus

Anything. Now, the CD changers, 10 years ago, used to emit fields that were like 80, 90, 2 feet.

Audience

Wow.

Aajonus

You know, for cars now, they're really low, so they've figured that one out.

Audience

How did you say, that cheap price [unintelligible]?

Aajonus

No, it's just the transistors and capacitors will have different amounts of radiation, broadcast, you know, electromagnetic fields and stuff like that, but it's broadcast.

Audience

So if you find they're too high, then you just take it to a mechanic to take out.

Aajonus

Can't do that.

Audience

He's talking about the manufacturer.

Aajonus

Yeah, you have to check the manufacturer.

Audience

[unintelligible] sleep with the light on?

Aajonus

Well, it's very bad unless you have a full spectrum bulb.

Audience

I bought a full spectrum bulb, and it never goes. It's been in my lamp for two years.

Aajonus

Mine was for seven years. It just started going out this year. The last two weeks.

Audience

Where do you get? Whole foods. It's good for any of your... Lamps? Yeah. [unintelligible] So it's okay, but that's...

Aajonus

Yeah, it's not right next to you. It should be at least three feet away from you. At least three feet away.

Audience

Do you have to use candles?

Aajonus

That's worse. You get carbon monoxides. When you burn candles, you get carbon monoxide. I don't care whether it's beeswax or petroleum... If you have petroleum, of course, you've got the phthalates and the dioxins produced as well. So they're highly poisonous.

Audience

So what you have to do is just go like natural people who live in [unintelligible]?

Aajonus

Or use full spectrum bulbs, lighting.

Audience

How much is it?

Aajonus

They're very expensive. Well, just look at it.

Audience

[unintelligible]

Aajonus

Any candles, all candles produce at least carbon monoxides. If they're wax, petroleum, made from petroleum, or paraben, they have all kinds of poisons.

Audience

What if you have a fire, those fumes out again, is that better?

Aajonus

If you have a fan directing the fumes out, you're still polluting the air.

Audience

So you shouldn't light the candles on Hanukkah or [unintelligible]? [unintelligible] bulbs [unintelligible] higher watt, because they usually...?

Aajonus

Just paint a little... Up to 150.

Audience

[unintelligible] don't go into church?

Aajonus

Three ways.

Audience

Where do you get them?

Aajonus

I haven't been to a Catholic church since they expelled me. Excommunicated?

Audience

Where do you find the bulbs?

Aajonus

Healthfood store.

Audience

You're talking about fluorine fluorescence, right?

Aajonus

No, full spectrum. They do make some full spectrum fluorescents.

Audience

You're talking about a regular incandescent bulb with film in it.

Aajonus

Yeah.

Audience

And that doesn't have EMFs in it?

Aajonus

No, I didn't say it doesn't have EMFs. I said it doesn't have just the ultraviolet ray. It can cause burns and irritation to the eyes and the skin. Full spectrum lets all of the rays, the full spectrum of light fields, it emits.

Audience

Not incandescent. Full spectrum. I use full spectrum screw-in fluorescent. Fluorescent is no good, though, is it?

Aajonus

As long as it's a full spectrum one.

Audience

[unintelligible] Is it possible that chronic fatigue can come from [unintelligible]?

Aajonus

Oh, it's not possible. It is. Your TVs, your deep TVs, have three laser guns. And they emit radiation 25 feet. According to John Ott, the world's greatest expert on light.

Audience

Television?

Aajonus

Television.

Audience

Unless?

Aajonus

Unless you have an LCD screen.

Audience

What's that?

Aajonus

The liquid crystal display, flat screen, like in your laptops.

Audience

[unintelligible]

Aajonus

Pardon?

Audience

Anything bigger screen.

Aajonus

Oh, it's a lot more. Definitely. The larger the radiation.

Audience

[unintelligible]

Aajonus

Chronic fatigue and bone problems, anemia, fibromyalgia. Yeah, if somebody sits around that TV six, seven hours a day. You'd better believe it. If you're watching one of those TVs, it takes about 45 minutes of sunlight to get rid of one hour of that kind of radiation exposure. The sun rays neutralize toxic radiation from the body. So sunlight is very helpful for people who have radiation exposure.

Audience

That means that the lights in your phone. How far you are from the TV?

Aajonus

You're saying 25 to 27 feet depending on the, and it's still a lot. You need binoculars to watch it.

Audience

[unintelligible]

Aajonus

[unintelligible] earplugs. You'd be able to get a nicer sound.

Audience

Right. It's got batteries.

Aajonus

It still has a EMF field, but if you're, yeah, you know, let me show you.

Audience

What about a record player you have? It's on now.

Aajonus

It's on right now. See that?

Audience

Oh my God. What?

Aajonus

Put it on this one.

Audience

Oh my God.

Aajonus

That's not too bad though.

Audience

This is just batteries.

Aajonus

Yeah.

Audience

Can I see mine?

Aajonus

See, yours is as high as 8 right here.

Audience

Uh-oh. One was 10 and one was 4. I have to get rid of it.

Aajonus

No, just stay away from it. Okay, now watch. See, it gets down to, this whole house is an [unintelligible].

Audience

What if I grab your cell phone?

Aajonus

The whole place needs to be rewired.

Audience

[unintelligible]

Aajonus

Okay, everyone. This winds it up for today. Thank you very much. And I have one more thing. I have one more thing.

Audience

I have one more question.

Aajonus

Oh, okay. One more question. Sorry. Yes.

Audience

Okay. [unintelligible] How do they get it?

Aajonus

They don't get it because they don't make it pure anymore. It's very toxic. But when you drink, let's say you're drinking two ounces of naturally carbonated water.

Audience

There it is. So I should get it open next?

Aajonus

Yeah. In combination with some kind of fat, that's leather or cream.

Audience

[unintelligible]

Aajonus

I said that if you're having your naturally carbonated water, there's your natural hydrogen peroxide.

Audience

Well, they do sell it on the internet.

Aajonus

But it's all toxic. They don't make it like it used to.

Audience

Well, they claim it's cool.

Aajonus

Yeah, but it's not like it used to be.

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